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You have choices: Galactic ET & Other Energies with Cathy Mesick

Have you ever wondered what to do if you encountered an energy not of your kind, what are your options, and how do you know what’s good and what isn’t for you?  Certified Reiki Master, Energy Intuitive, and Light Weaver, Cathy Mesick is back to join Emily in an empowering discussion about galactic beings and extraterrestrial energies. If you’re wanting an intentional conversation, covering a big topic, rest assured you will feel empowered in knowing that you are not alone in being curious, having your own experiences, and also desiring clarity.  The topics are fascinating and they’re just getting started.  Emily and Cathy offer multiple recommendations to practice claiming and reclaiming your power and welcome your comments and experiences, reach out to us via email or DM.

Just some of the topics covered:

  • What is an alien?
  • How we interact with aliens based on our belief system
  • Positive & negative experiences of ETs
  • Abductions – what happens with our body?
  • Concept of time – daydreaming vs hypnosis
  • Energetic boundaries
  • The veil – what is the greater picture?
  • Moving into a new vibration
  • Why do they know about us but we don’t know about them?
  • Are there any aliens that are like humans?
  • How do they communicate with us?
  • & much more!

About Cathy:

Cathy is a certified Reiki Master Teacher, Energy Intuitive and Light Weaver. She brings a practical, grounded approach to energy healing. Her in-depth training in energy healing and shamanic practices focus on energetic imbalances within the body and its human energy fields, providing insights as to the causes and assisting the client in returning to a state of well-being, vitality, and balance.

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Episode Transcript

You have choices: Galactic, ET, & Other Energies with Cathy Mesick

[00:00:00] Welcome everyone to the Your Energy First Podcast. I’m your host, Emily Marie, and it is such a pleasure to have you here today to co-create with you in this space and to talk about all things your energy.

Welcome back to the podcast everyone. It is so good to have you here today. I am so excited because I have Kathy Meek back and her and I are gonna have a discussion today, an empowering discussion about alternate energies, energies that are not of this earth. One of the terms we all know well are aliens, and this is not a conversation about do aliens exist or not.

This is for you if you are pretty sure that they do and you’re curious to. Learn a little bit more about it from [00:01:00] a, from the perspective of how do we, you know, my intention behind holding space for this episode, because this was coming to me, I was gonna say weeks originally, but it’d actually been months, is I just want you folks to feel empowered in knowing that you have options, should you ever encounter anything.

Um, I personally work with folks who have positive experiences and I think sometimes we see a lot of things online that sort of turn us off to that stuff. And it is kind of a freaky topic, I’m not gonna lie. It’s, it’s freaky because it’s not something we’re taught about. It’s not something that’s well understood yet.

And so my intention, you know, I also wanna point. I myself, and I can, I can speak for Kathy cuz we talked about this before we got started. But we both took means to take care of our energy, to take care of ourselves, the space, holding space for this container, for [00:02:00] this conversation, for this session. So my intention is that you feel empowered and know that you have choices when it comes to this topic.

And Kathy, welcome. Thank you, Emily. It’s good to be back. . Yeah. And what is your intention for this podcast episode? Um, you know, this is a very good question. My intention today is to inform to the best of my ability and kind of unpack this topic of all topics in some, you know, some circles. This is a very big topic.

Yeah. And, um, and just provide, you know, And, and more clarity around this topic. Um, it holds space for us in this, you know, discussion today that, um, yeah, just shed light on it and hopefully, um, just kind of add information to this and answer questions that, you know, come up between the two of us and yeah.

What our listeners might have, you know, and they Yeah. [00:03:00] Pond this . Yeah. And, you know, I should mention, so this is, you know, normally a recording like this, I would have, you know, people from the inner light community here, but this was one that needed to just because the topic, it’s, it’s a really, it can be a finicky energy and there’s a responsibility when we hold space for a group of people to take care of their energy.

And it’s not that we couldn’t do it, it just felt like we needed to focus on the topic at hand and be more in flow. Perfect. Perfect answer. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. So how did you get into the topic of, I don’t even, I’m trying to think what we call it originally. I think when I asked you about this, I asked you about, I think I said aliens and extraterrestrials, and now it’s kind of gone beyond that scope even so.

Mm-hmm. , why don’t we start with, I’m asking the guides , why don’t we kind of start with the alien, the extraterrestrial. When did you start to notice that they [00:04:00] existed in life? Um, you know, probably goes back to, well least in my childhood, it was one of those Saturday afternoon sitting down in front of the TV and watching Saturday matinee and a lot of the movies dealt with, you know, Aliens, invasions, war, the worlds.

Right? So it puts the awareness of that topic in your psyche, but it was fear-based at that point, but there’s still a grand mystery around it. Mm-hmm. . So that’s kind of how my awareness came out. But, you know, watching movies, that’s how everything kind of paranormal shows up in your words. It’s a collective mm-hmm.

But as I, um, you know, and you always, I had an interest in, you know, space. You know, we had telescopes growing up, so you’re always looking to the heavens, you know, you are looking up, looking at stars. And my dad was always, you know, curious. My mom, you know, they both brought up the topic thinking they would [00:05:00] see things or hear things.

and, and I don’t know, we were young. Mm-hmm. , so I don’t know to what degree my parents were having their discussions cuz there were things making the news back then. If you go back and read tabloids, you know, I love that there are things making the news, but fast forward to when I start my healing business and start going down the, the pathway of energy work.

And it, it still, this all dovetails into paranormal, you know, that’s my background was paranormal investigations. But if you start researching this enough, you start seeing how everything kind of overlaps. There’s, you know, if you, it’s just, everything’s interconnected. And so the term alien, you know, that’s just kind of a, a catchall term.

What is an alien? Well, it’s, yeah. Our collective pop culture has defined alien as a little green man. Mm-hmm. , you know. Mm-hmm. , you know, my favorite Martian, you know, one of those. [00:06:00] Sixties, you know Right. Series that were comedy, but yeah. So it was like, yeah. The Martian off world, it was something other than human.

Yeah. You know, otherworldly. Right. But when you get into the world of energy work, in some ways, everything that we work with outside of this physical reality is off world. It’s other dimensional. It’s, I call it like ultra dimensional. Yeah. So aliens can be ultra dimensional, interdimensional, mm-hmm. . And as we discuss and kind of unpack this topic, you’ll see why we call them interdimensional or interdimensional.

Um, um, yeah. So that’s kind of how I was just kind of like Saturday matinee is the fast forward energy healer, and, and actually interacting with them now. So it’s not so farfetched. Yeah, but a lot of our fears are based on pop culture and what, you know, Hollywood likes to tell us we’re dealing with.

[00:07:00] Exactly. Oh mm-hmm. . Oh, Hollywood and mainstream news. Oh, Hollywood. So silly. So silly. So my background was different. My background, we were, you know, we were going to church and. I, I remember thinking that the world was just, I was like, there’s no one else out there but us. and I, and I had this inkling, I think that I knew the truth, but I didn’t want it to be true.

I was like, oh, it’s just so complex. And then I have to be responsible for my life and, you know, can’t I just take the whatever pill, whatever color pill it is, and just kind of stay numb to reality? I think that’s the blue pill. . Oh, the, the blue pill is the one where we, that’s the blue pill watching mainstream media.

Okay. . So, and then finally I was like, you know, I can’t ignore this anymore. And I’ve actually had a few experiences myself, at least two, the guides are saying there’s been a few more I just didn’t know to identify them as [00:08:00] such, and I’m gonna share my experiences around it, which I never thought I would publicly.

I don’t know why. . But it happens. But also I have some clients who are so incredible and they work with galactic beings. Galactic beings. Yeah. And I’ve seen so many cool things and just learned so much from their sessions and seen so many cool things. And I know for you the same. So when it comes to aliens, you know, aliens are just one tiny piece of the pie.

Yeah. And their energy like anything else. So, That’s why I always encourage you people to remember their light. You know, if you ever have an experience where you’re thinking, you know, and your experience will tell you, right? Like, if it feels good, it’s good for you. If it doesn’t feel good, it’s not good for you, and you do know the difference.

So, but just remember your light or throughout this podcast, if we’re talking about something and you start to feel [00:09:00] discomfort, you just wanna remember your light and your light will, okay, let’s go. Their light will, your light will set you free. Um, your light will keep you safe also, as long as you mine your business, right?

So, Yep. Stay in your lane, . Exactly. I’m always joking with Michael Live. Just stay in your lane. Yeah. It’s a really cool thing to stay in your lane too. I think we underestimate it, so there’s a lot of possibility there. We don’t have to do it all. We don’t have to do it all. So what would you, how would you kind of frame aliens to start?

Like what have, what’s your experience been like with aliens? You know, I’ve kind of had a crash course in them as far as working with them within my healing business. Mm-hmm. . Um, it’s one thing to watch in research. There’s no shortage of publications and books and YouTube videos on this topic. Mm-hmm. , but I can only speak from my actual experiences with [00:10:00] them in my healing practice.

And I’ve had both, not me personally, but with clients and how they’ve interacted with maybe a little more, you know, less than, Favorable interactions. So there’s definitely certain groups that are just like, you know, in our last interview or our last podcast, we were talking about, you know, entities sometimes like attached to our field.

Mm-hmm. , it’s just as with every being, every human, there’s good and not so good. You know, there’s just a broad spectrum of interactions, but it’s also how we interact with them through our, you know, our belief systems. So you, can you expand on that a little bit? How we interact with them based on our belief system.

So going into, if we are fear-based, if we, you know, disempowered, we will feel disempowered when we [00:11:00] interact with these beings. And we might just have the perspective. It’s bad. They’re bad, everything’s bad. So we’re gonna be in a fear state of mind. So we’re automatically, maybe if we were just neutral, realizing, oh, they’re not bad.

It’s just another type of energetic being, trying to make contact with you. Yeah. You know, it’s just reframing our belief system. So if we’re always conditioned to think that it’s evil or bad, you know? Mm-hmm. , just shun, shun, shun. Mm-hmm. , you know, we might just be missing a really beautiful opportunity to raise our consciousness, raise our awareness.

And that’s something I want to address throughout our call or talk tonight about consciousness here, cuz it’s a big component. Um, and. If we are just in a more neutral, balanced, grounded state of awareness and we’re connecting to these beings, and it’s a, you know, [00:12:00] mutual, it’s just like spirit guides, you know, they’re, they are connecting to us and there’s different frequencies within this bandwidth, if you will.

Mm-hmm. and there are galactic that will wanna, you know, connect with you. And that could be your spirit guide as well. It’s not just, yeah. A hu there’s so, I just don’t like to use labels cause it really boxes things in. Same, but our spirit guides could be a galactic from some star system, like ln, you know, it just that.

You know, or Vegas, you know Vegas, yeah. . Yeah. And I even say I, you know, it’s funny you say spirit guide and I also use the term spirit team because I’ve found mm-hmm that like our, you know, our spirit guides are those that are just, I wanna say like bare bones, like they’re with us. It’s like the foundation.

And then we’ve got every, I mean everything else, [00:13:00] everything else is on the right team. We have human earth, three dimensional spirit guides that help us with the 3D Earth plane. You know, that’s, I call ’em like our earth guides. And I didn’t know this when I first started out with energy work. Same. And all of a sudden I’m like, oh, there’s, depending on the human or human, I always talk about human.

So I personally, some of my clients, they all have human guides and galactic guides. Yeah. Yeah. And I, that’s when I. Oh, there is kind of like a tier system depending on the person I’m working on and their soul’s purpose here. Yep. Human. And then there’s a galactic piece that started coming in and I was like, oh cool.

Very cool. Yeah, I live on the galactic Well. Yeah. I don’t, I don’t know if I, how much, how far I wanna get into this, but there have been times where I’m holding space for the galactic, and I, I’m kind of sitting there and I’m like, thanks for letting me be here. . Like, it’s so amazing and it’s so cool the energy that they’re bringing in for the client.

I’m [00:14:00] like, I get a bear witness to this. This is amazing. So you made the point about people being in fear with mm-hmm. , these energies. The other thing that I will see, and this is more online, but I see people kind of with this, you know, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, you know, um, I’m an alien, I’m cool, I’m, you know, like, you know what I’m talking about.

Or like, I’m better than I’m here to save people on earth or show them the way. And, and you know what, what that makes me reflect on is how. I look at Harry Potter. So I was writing something out and I went to the guide, said Billion, there’s a billion people who have watched or read here at the Harry Potter series.

And I was like, really? So I Googled it and over 500 million books have been sold. Now that means books have been shared, movies have been watched, who didn’t read the books, et cetera, and I was like, over a billion people on our planet have [00:15:00] watched or perceived Harry Potter. Why is it so popular? To me, what makes sense is it’s popular because people know they are energetic, they know that they have magic.

I consider magic the activation of energy in general, very generally speaking. Mm-hmm. Magic has many definitions. So I’m like, people know that their energy is unique and has something that they’re more, we’re more than just human, we’re more than just pen paper driving my car around, riding my bike around.

So I understand why these people have a, a need to feel special cuz we are special. Everyone’s special, which makes nobody special. the irony. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So yeah, I definitely think that there is something to the, so getting back into what you were talking about with the galactic and the [00:16:00] aliens, what have you, how would you describe an alien, like as a subset, as a different race?

So the, just the term alien to me is, It’s a really loose, definitive term to a, a class of being or beings actually. Mm-hmm. That, you know, it’s just, to me, it’s just a very watered down term that we, or a label that we’ve applied to this huge array of beings. Interdimensional. Totally. It’s a catchall term alien.

I mean, it just kinda like, what is an alien? You know? It’s just somebody that’s other, you know? Yeah. It’s other. Exactly. Yeah. So, and I think that’s just so, and that’s, I used to say alien a lot. I used to, even early on, I’d say, oh, alien. Mm-hmm. . And then I’m realizing actually these beings are interdimensional.

They can phase in, phase out, they’re interdimensional, [00:17:00] they can slip in between dimensions very easily. Mm-hmm. . So that’s why I use, ah, they’re, you know, or you could say ultra terrestrial. I mean, there’s a lot of fancy terms out there, but. . Um, so alien to me is just a very generic or very catchall term for, um, a class of energetic beings that are not human, you know, 3D biological form

Right, right, right. I have seen, so let’s talk, let’s focus on the alien part for a bit. Mm-hmm. , and you’re, I, I agree with, I agree with what you’re saying. I mean, I too have, I thought it was like, oh, aliens, and then in doing this like line of work you see so much more. I remember when I first got started, I was doing, I used to do sessions in a dark room.

I didn’t know. I mean, it was beautiful. It was the salt mine and you know, there’s, it was beautiful and it was moody. And I remember I was seeing this individual and they were on the table and they were face [00:18:00] up at this point. And I, they, you know, their spirit guide, spirit team had me hold my hand over their third eye.

And this silver energy came down like silver, like tinsel, like swirled. And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, I want that . And I’ve never seen it since. Not that specific energy. Um, actually what was interesting about this person’s journey is that they were actually moving from an interdimensional being that was not good into the light.

Ooh. And this was part of their path. And I, to me that was absolutely fascinating. So the other thing that I’ve noticed is people say that they think. or, or we don’t because we don’t have the terminology yet. They say alien or I think I’m alien and it’s actually galactic. So how would you define Galactic versus, I know we’ve kind of touched on the alien piece.

Mm-hmm. , but what would you call the [00:19:00] galactic piece? What have you found? So, in my understanding at least, what, how I use the term is think about galaxies. You know, we look out into our solar system and there’s, oh gosh, every star is a solar system. If you are, it’s a galaxy. So galactic, or within this dimension, this is where it gets a little mind blowing.

Cause I, what we see with our physical eyes, which is always, you know, we’re talking about the speed of light. Yeah. Everything we see out in space is already. million light years passed. Yeah. But it’s in our known universe. So galactic is gonna be something within the structure of our universe. Within that, the dimension, this dimension, everything we see is third dimension.

Mm-hmm. . And so galactic could be within these solar system. That’s how I use Galactic. It’s, it’s outside of our solar system, if you will. Yeah. You know, that’s how I see it too, in [00:20:00] our imposs, possibly Milky Way, but I just kind of use that as another term, galactic, cuz it kind of puts them into an energetic spectrum.

Mm. That is outside of, again, outside of our third dimension. Right. I mean, earth is comprised of many dimensions. Mm-hmm. , but for simplicity’s sake, you know, I’m just saying it’s galactic as the name implies. Galaxy Galactic. It’s of something out here in our Galaxy system. Um, and it, it’s good. Like there’s, I, you know, I always say there’s good and bad energy in everything.

And whenever Galactic have presented themselves for a client, for example, it always felt really, really good. That was the key. Mm-hmm. , I think the client, for me, the client has always been kind of shy at first to talk about something like this, but it, you know, I’m like, how does it feel? And then I can feel so [00:21:00] good or it, you know, it does feel like home and it does feel like they’re of the light and.

The galactic is just what they’ve given me. The Spirit team. Mm-hmm. , and they’re just doing that to be, to . Make use of human time. You know, do you have a, you have an hour with the client. They’re like, don’t focus on us, we wanna help you . And also keep in mind, we’re trying to apply linear language here. We are taking totally vibrations and reducing it down into linear language.

And that’s really hard when we’re dealing with multidimensional frequencies that’s, we’re having to disseminate really water it down into language that Oh, okay. Galactic, that works. , yeah. Oh my gosh. I even said that. Another one is celestial. I’ve also used that. That doesn’t feel as true, but Galactic works.

Oh yeah. That’s interesting you say celestial, because that has a different tone, a different resonance. Mm-hmm. to me. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. and I have had. Celestial beings, a group of them present themselves [00:22:00] to me, and I had a very bad feeling about it, but they tried to present themselves as a light. And I said, if you are, then you’ll still be here in a certain amount of time.

And sure enough, they weren’t. So, but yeah, there’s that and, and there’s that. Yeah, there’s that. But I do see how people, again, that’s, you know, Harry Potter, I don’t wanna call it a syndrome, but I think, I think these different types of beings, some prey on people because they know, Hey, you know what? I know I got something in me and you’re here telling me I do.

And I think it’s cool. I’m actually communicating with you or whatever you’ve chosen me. You know? And I think people feel, it makes ’em feel good, you know, temporarily at least. So, yeah. There’s a deep human desire to feel unique and special, so for sure. And you can see it in the language that shows up in pop culture around, you know, just modern language.

Yeah. You know, like hybrid [00:23:00] star seed. Um, what’s another one I’m seeing? Starcy comes up a lot, um, too. Um, hybrid. Yeah, that’s, that’s an interesting one. It has a little weird different connotation to it. You know, what’s a hybrid? Mm-hmm. , um, Um, I’m just trying to think of how people come to me with their terminology.

Yeah, those are the two main ones. What have you heard? Yeah, I would say I hear those a lot. I hear star seat, I hear light worker. You know what my spirit team has guided me too, is . It’s like, what are you experiencing now? Who are you? Right. You know, what are you being Yes now? And I’m like, well, right now I’m a human and I’m choosing to work with the light.

Right. And they just keep it really, really simple. Now, that’s not to say that because I do have some clients who are, [00:24:00] you could say proactively and reactively working with their galactic teams. Mm-hmm. , and that’s different. But I feel like, and it’s funny because the whole reason I started this podcast, and I’m written this book, is because I wanna help give some verbiage to energy, you know, help people understand the universal laws of energy so that they can safely explore it.

So why don’t we jump into when it doesn’t feel good, when the energies of the ets, the extraterrestrials, the, the guides just said, ultrasensitive ultras, sensitives would probably be us . So when it doesn’t feel good for us, um, can you give us a couple of examples of experiences like maybe you’ve had or, you know, people have had, and let’s kind of give people a framework of what that might look like.

So yeah, it’s where I have experienced the negative influence, not me personally, but for [00:25:00] cl uh, a couple of clients that have had dealings with these. I would say individuals, . Yeah, sure. Is one thing I wanna highlight. Typically, if there is interactions happening at this time, you can go back and see and be validated that it’s been since their childhood, this is typically ongoing throughout their lifetime.

That’s so important. So, and that’s, it doesn’t just start now, it’s the, the galactic, or whoever I’m working with, they’ll give me vignettes of, oh, we contacted you when you were three years old. Do you remember this? And they’ll give me the, you know, how they were presented with an, you know, an introduction or an event that happened.

And then the, my client will go, oh, that was real. You know, that they’ll just sit there and their eyes get as big as saucers. Right. A lot of times they just, You know, they just kind of pushed it off. No, we’ve been taught [00:26:00] not to trust our imagination. So that’s an example of like that’s the good also, right?

That’s the good when they realize, oh, that was real. So that you’re being introduced. Well, the negative, there are negative experiences out there that don’t go very well for the clients. Yeah. And so, and it, and I guess I’ll just start talking about what has happened for them. There are interactions that could be called abductions.

Yeah. You know, that happen. Yeah. It can happen in their sleep. It can also happen while they are consciously awake. Yeah. And not as common. What were you gonna say? Oh, no, that’s so, that’s so good. I mean, I wanna dissect all three of those. When you said consciously awake and how that’s not as common. That gets back to our point around the fact that at least my generation, I think your generation, we are almost in same generation, but we just weren’t taught as much to trust our imagination.

[00:27:00] Right. And so these things do happen in the liminal space. My experiences mm-hmm. both times have been in the liminal space. It ha It was like while I was sleeping and it woke me up. . Um, and then I also have clients who have had positive abductions. Like, I wouldn’t call it an abduction, but it’s like, yeah, that is interesting, right?

Yeah. Going back to they literally go back to a ship and get support and a download and multiple people, so, yeah. Okay. Okay. So, and I, and I, you know, we’re sharing this, we’re obviously not giving any details. Um, I have had many, many clients, Kathy has too, so I just, I’m respectful of people’s, you know, personal stories.

This is, because again, I know there’s more of you out there who have had experiences like this, and you’re normal, , you’re normal. And also, right. There’s some people like myself who are not gonna be, I don’t think, I mean, who haven’t had these types of experiences, but can also offer support. Okay. Keep going.[00:28:00]

Yeah, no, I was just gonna say, typically what, you know, you. , I’m gonna say the good and the less good. Mm-hmm. , you know that it’s usually a lifelong, you know, I would call lifelong is a lifer. Nice. They’ve been experiencing this since childhood. Yeah. And it might even be ancestral within their family structure too.

Their parents, grandparents. Beautiful. They might have skipped a generation, but, so that’s an also a consideration. But I have a lot of clients who, this never comes up. It’s not a part of their experience here on the earth plane. They’re definitely having just human interactions and then their guides basically, and ancestors.

But there is a large sector of society that has this other experience. And for the negative experiences, the ones that I, there is, there are some themes, and this is what I find really interesting when I have clients who’ve had interactions with these beings. Their [00:29:00] childhoods have been pretty tumultuous, that it could be comprised of child abuse, you know, physical abuse, psychological abuse.

And so that’s just a thing. I don’t know if that is a requirement, but it just seems that these poor little children that grow up in households where there’s domestic violence mm-hmm. , um, that’s just a theme. I always look for patterns in my clients and that’s how I make reference points. And I just, it’s my own mental database.

I’m like, oh, there’s a similarity again. Yep. Um, the negative influences that happen here is a lot of times these young, when they’re young, are very disempowered. They, they have no empowerment. It’s been taken away from them by the abuse in the home. Mm-hmm. , and then possibly these negative ets, if you will.

Mm-hmm. . Kind of access these children and, and they abduct them. I can only speak [00:30:00] from the clients I have worked on that have had experiences. Right. And they haven’t gone very well. And it’s not just one species that’s interacting with them, it’s several. Right. So, so there’s several that maybe don’t have their highest good.

There’s, there’s an indifference. I say humans have a moral emotional code. You know, we label things good and bad constantly. It’s part of our dwell of the down here. Yep. Good and bad. Some of these races don’t have that depth of awareness. There’s not a clue. Um, let’s say a duality. There’s not good and bad.

It just is. There’s an indifference. They don’t have an emotional spectrum like we do. Yeah. That’s not all of these beings. But there are definitely a group that don’t have the emotional depth that we do. They don’t feel, we feel they don’t. So that can lead to us thinking that they’re negative because they don’t feel, they don’t have [00:31:00] compassion.

Like, you know, oh, that hurts. They don’t understand what hurt or pain is, cuz they don’t feel, yeah. It’s an interesting dynamic. So my clients, when they’ve had negative experiences, I always, as you teach so well, Emily, come back to your power, stay in your power, connect to your light work from that light center.

Mm-hmm. and. Rebuilds your power and how to interact with these beings if it’s ongoing still and set clear boundaries. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just the same as all energetic interactions we have across the veil. I mean, it could be ghosts, it can be critters. Yeah. . And then there’s this other grouping, you know, it’s just really how we hold our power.

Mm-hmm. , you know, it’s, and it just, yeah. So that’s, hopefully that answers, you know, the negative. There’s definitely some negative groups out there. Yeah. And then some beautiful, loving, supportive [00:32:00] beings that have just this incredible presence. Yeah. And helping us grow with our consciousness. The evolution of humankind, you know.

Everything that we’d hoped they’d be, you know, from a human perspective. Aw, I love that . Yeah. It’s, it’s a big spectrum there, . Yeah, it is. So you had touched on the fact that there’s a group of them, a group of them, a race. You call it a race of them that doesn’t necessarily feel the way we feel. And I’m right doing my best to explain what it is we’re talking about here.

There was a time I was, um, staying at someone’s house and I was woken up in the middle of the night because I had had a dream that it was literally a, uh, u f o with two green martians in it. I’m not kidding you. And they had literally sent a beam down and they’re like, [00:33:00] we would like to take you. And I said, no.

And they said, we would like you to come with us. And I said, absolutely not. Or whatever the interaction was. And it didn’t feel good. It didn’t feel right. It felt, um, cold. It felt uncomfortable. And, and then I jerked awake and I was laying on my back and I even said to them, I said, and don’t take my cat.

And when I woke up, she was laying on my chest vertically down me. And she was doing this low per, which was very unlike her to lay on me in that exact way. That’s not how she typically lays on me, if she does. So it was, it was very interesting. And I didn’t feel good afterwards. Right. So, but again, and, and they respected my boundaries cause I kept saying no.

And I’m glad that they did. I’m sure they don’t always do that, other versions of them anyway, so. Yeah. Fascinating. Wild. It was wild. You know, it [00:34:00] is an interesting. Pattern that does emerge. And a lot of times it does happen when we are asleep or unconscious, you know, it’s, um, whether that’s a protective mechanism, that that’s when they or they deliberately shut down our consciousness, which is a thing too.

Or they take us and just we blip and there’s loss of time. I’m sitting here thinking of a let’s talk. Yeah. I was just thinking, I can feel that my, my guys are saying, let’s talk about time . Let’s talk about time. Let’s, let’s talk about that. Yeah. So what, what’s your experience been around that? So, you know, time is only relative down here on the earth plane.

That’s how we measure. That’s time. It’s linear. Yeah. But these beings have, you know, they’re outside of time. So you’ll find reports where there’s time loss. Mm-hmm. loss of time. And, and this is where it, to me, this is where my [00:35:00] mind. Literally just kind of gets blown because, you know, we are living in a very linear reality here where time flows in a very predictable way.

And then when we start hearing about these things, well, you know, there’s time. I’ve lost three hours, you know, I’m driving down a freeway, and all of a sudden, you know, you’re three, you, you’re further down the highway and you don’t remember going further down the highway and you’ve lost three hours.

Mm-hmm. And that’s some people blip out for, they’re like, okay, I don’t remember the drive for the last minute and a half, but. That’s just daydreaming. , . It’s just like daydreaming. I just wanted to make sure people understood that . Right. That’s where our mind is not present. We’re thinking about grocery lists or we’re just right.

There is definitely where we just kind of wander off. So this is clearly driving down the freeway and all of a sudden, and if they go under hypnosis, [00:36:00] they will see that there was either a flash or under hypnosis. They’ll see that something did interrupt their drive down the freeway and the next thing you know, they’re somewhere else but returned three hours later in a different part of the freeway.

You know, it’s crazy. There is a, an account of, it makes me so mad. Betty and Barney Hill. Hill. Mm-hmm. , there was an abduction case and they lost several hours. They came back. This is like from the forties, I believe. I’m not good on history dates, showing my weakness. Did people know that they had, I guess, vanished temporarily?

So were people wondering where they were? Um, they were driving back in the middle of the night. Um, this is like in the Ohio Valley. Gosh, if I would’ve known, we were talking about the hills. I would have gotten dates sometimes, but they were driving back at night. They had, [00:37:00] um, so there was not, they were just driving a freeway.

This is in the fifties, I believe, and they saw light up to the right, I believe, you know, a light. And they pull over and they look. And so it was clearly a, yeah, a light that was coming down a ship. Right? So that’s a physical manifestation. Spaceship, we’ll call it a spaceship, you know? Yeah. For practical terms.

And they, but they had to act, they had to be hypno, you know, regressed through, you know, hypnosis to actually access their experience and have it documented. And it was documented by the c i a, I believe they were put under regression by the government. I have, I, this is giving me chills everywhere. So yeah, there’s a lot of good history around abduction cases, and it’s probably one of the most famous, besides Travis Walton, who was abducted some Lum, um, [00:38:00] lumberjacks.

Mm-hmm. . And he was abducted. And that was a well-documented case and a movie made called Fire in the Sky about his experience. And that was real, that was real for him. So physical abduction, And there were witnesses for his abduction, but the hills, there was no witnesses, but when they were brought, brought back and plopped back down in their car, things were just not right.

You know, there was a lot of trauma. And so those would be the, of course we could interpret that as negative experiences, but again, this is through our human lens and our belief systems and mm-hmm. , there is a notion that there’s, you know, that we’re a grand experiment, if you will. Yeah. You know, and this is, we are no different with the other smaller animal kingdom.

Like when we do tests on lab rats and you know, [00:39:00] our scientists, you know, if you look at in that term mm-hmm. a definition of lab rats. Yeah. You know, we could be somebody else’s lab rats, you know, and this is a rabbit hole, Emily. Wouldn’t that just be the juice? We cross over and it’s like, oh my gosh, you didn’t know this.

Oh my God. But y’all were a bunch of . So what this also brings up, everything comes from source energy though. Everything, all these races, all these galactic, celestials, ets, everything comes from source. It’s, it’s created, it’s source energy. It comes from source. So we just, you know, we get so self-centric as humans thinking the world revolves around us, but the universe is vast and there are many dimensions and there’s a lot of interplay.

I asked the guides, what did I ask them the other day? If there. more than just our universe. [00:40:00] Like are there multiple? And they’re like, aha, not today. going there today, Emily . I was like, yeah, I don’t really, I wouldn’t say, it’s not that I don’t care, but you know, we got other stuff we’re working on. But it is interesting you, it’s just, you know, it’s just consciousness really.

It’s just where we expand our mind and our awareness. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. It’s vast. It’s a vast ocean. . It is a vast ocean. So what would you say are some of the symptoms someone should look for if they think, maybe I’m gonna use this term, maybe they’re being messed with. So what are some of the symptoms that they’re, that they might need to look for in themselves?

Okay, so this would be again, you know, nearing on more the negative side. . Right. Because, you know, this is where we usually get the call or the booking with the client that something’s not right. You know, when things are peachy keen, we don’t typically get these types of sessions with clients, so. [00:41:00] Right, right.

Well, um, unless they just want clarification, you know, sometimes I can, sometimes, yeah. Sometimes they wanna talk about this stuff with someone and who’s like, not gonna think they’re crazy and can hold space and help them. Yeah. So yeah, I’ve made that very clear to my clients. There’s no topic off limits in these walls.

Same. Same. It’s all good. Yeah. Yeah. It’s fun. Um, it’s a safe place. Yeah. Um, so the one thing I’ve noticed with the negative interactions is their energy doesn’t feel right. Um, and it’s usually there’s a, there is a, a telltale sign when. The energy with, I’d say the more negative influences. It has a metallic feel to it.

It’s very metallic. Oh my gosh. Yes. Okay. Oh, glad that makes sense to you. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. And you know what, I should, I’m, I keep going and also I wanna help people understand what they should look for in themselves. But [00:42:00] I’m kinda wondering if people sometimes don’t ha get a metallic taste in their mouth.

They could. Yeah. It’s an smell. Yes. There. It’s interesting how. You know, I always say rule out everything physical. Make sure you, you know, go in for a physical, make sure everything’s working, you know, all your blood works is good because sometimes there are things that occur in our bodies that can elicit metallic tastes, you know, complex.

Yeah. Okay. So you rule out everything and you’re coming in, but usually I, it’s the energy, your energy is off, it’s not flowing. There’s just something feels off. Um, plague by nightmares and, um, I always say trust your intuition. Yeah. Um, I’m just going back through my database of clients that Sure. Once something didn’t feel right, so usually I get in one particular case there is.[00:43:00]

She’s very self-aware and her energy and she always knows something doesn’t feel right. She does have continuing interactions, so, and she knows the trademark of when she’s gonna be messed with . It’s just, it’s just like textbook. She just knows she’s had it since childhood. She just knows. Yeah. But it’s a very metallic, energetic field.

And when I work on her, I can feel when there’s been interactions, cuz there’s like a, an echo of metallic energy. Mm-hmm. . Um, and it’s very different because you, you can actually sense that there is, for me, I just see, oh, there’s interference. I just know, oh, there’s a, it’s a metallic energy pattern. And for her, her energy just doesn’t flow right.

When there’s direct interaction, our chakra system goes very linear. You know, we have our chakras align with our spine. They don’t fully [00:44:00] understand how the human organism or the bar biologic form works our energy system or complex. We’ve got meridians, we’ve got channels, all of this energetic, we’re complex.

Mm-hmm. and I always notice that things get messed up. Yeah. You know, when they start coming into the energy field, cuz their energetic structure is so different than ours. We’re. So, that’s what’s so beautiful about humans is that we are, we are a beautiful being. We’re complex. Just the organism. It’s so beautifully created.

Right. Complex, but they do mess, kinda mess up the energy flow. Mm-hmm. . So I’ll have to go in and restructure the chocolate system Yeah. You know, to, to try and rebuild and get it back in line. Well, I, I, I think it’s in, please tell me if you have a different opinion or a similar opinion, like what’s your perspective on this, based on your experience.

[00:45:00] But part of the reason the chakras are out of bounds is because, well, one, the guys are pointing out a few things. Our physical bodies weren’t meant to be in things like spaceships. we’re supposed to be on the earth, which I don’t think we could ever live on Mars, Mr. Elon Musk, because we are earthlings.

Yes, yes, yes. Our energy is, you know, is very, um, I’d say it, we have a symbiotic relationship with nature. I mean, we are nature. We, we are nature. Yes. So, and our whole energetic system is aligned with. Earth’s energy field. So just Yeah. Adding onto your statement. Yeah. So yeah, we’re not meant to go off world and sustain life.

So when we get, um, the physical form, when it’s removed from this earth plane, it can cause a lot of havoc. It can cause interruption to our, our magnetic field. Mm-hmm. . Um, [00:46:00] then there’s another piece here I wanna touch on. They take our consciousness, that’s another thing. Body stays behind, but they take our energy body.

That’s exactly what I was gonna say. And that’s what messes up the chakras. Cuz the chakras hold our en well one of, one of their mini purposes spirit. Yeah. They hold it in place. Yeah. It’s, you can see how dynamic we are. We, yeah. We need that spirit inside the body to animate our body. Mm-hmm. , it’s, it’s very interesting.

Um, so. We’re talking about consciousness here, you know, dimensional, multi-dimensional. You know, we’re, we are dynamic human beings. So like through meditation you can connect to these beings as we can our guides through meditation, raising our vibration and interacting while staying in our body. Right? Um, I think some of these beings, um, don’t [00:47:00] see the value in keeping us in our bodies.

I’ve had more than one conversation saying, you cannot take her . You have to keep her in her body. . I discipline ’em. I’m like, no, this is not okay. Right, right, right. You don’t need her to be with you in order to communicate. I say, yeah, if you really wanna help her, keep her in her body, you know, you know, just here, here, here.

Mm-hmm. . That is so funny. I know. I’ve had that over and over again. Um, now I have this question. Oh, nope, nope. Go. You go. I was just gonna add that a part of the challenge with this particular case that I’m referencing is the personality of my client loves the attention of this story that has followed her through her life.

There is something that, you know, it’s, it’s trauma-based, but she’s very attached. Her ego is attached to the [00:48:00] identity of the story of alien interaction. Yeah. Abduction. And they haven’t always been nice to her. There’s several species that I’ve interacted, but she is a very attached to the story and it’s.

She’s identifying with it. So I think, yeah, when I keep saying stay in your lane set boundaries, it only goes so far because there’s a story that she’s very much attached to. Well, I mean, I can see from her perspective if this is mm-hmm. experience you’ve had since you were a kid. There’s that familiarity.

And if there’s trauma from childhood and these things are giving you attention and you feel special, then hey. Yeah. So, yeah. And she’s getting mileage, getting mileage out of the storytelling too, because it does become a conversation that comes up all the time. Yeah. So it’s, it’s getting, it’s like somebody who’s really attached to their suffering, like if they have cancer, that cancer becomes their identity.

Mm-hmm. . And so I always say, can you see your [00:49:00] life? Healed from cancer, what does your life look like? Healed. And this is the same type of dynamic. What does your life look like with no more alien interaction or ET interaction? What is your, is it gonna be nice and quiet and stable and predictable and balance?

Yeah. Yeah. Is that, how does that feel? Right? Well, it feels boring . Mm-hmm. . I was just gonna say, you need create more pleasure and play in your life then. Right. Just create a new relationship to life, you know? Yeah. But, um, it’s interesting cuz it brings up a lot of psychological patterning. Yeah. I think we underestimate the, the skits back to the Harry Potter esque.

Mm-hmm. of us all. I think there. To your point where you said how from meditation or intentional activation within your light, you can connect to galactic beings, extraterrestrials that are aligned with you, that are meant to be with you. Mm-hmm. . Absolutely. I think there’s so much to explore [00:50:00] as humans. We heavily underestimate that.

So what, because we don’t know then people jump too well. Alien, wink, wink. Nudge, nudge. And um, I had, I was in a, there’s a gal who she does, she does group, I don’t wanna say exactly what she does. She does an A version of an energy healing work and she holds great space. She holds space really, really well.

And so I like showing up for her events cause I come with my intentions and what I wanna shift. And she does her own inner work and she’s very empowering. And so I know she can hold space for me to shift. And I also know that she’s into aliens. And I was in one of her sessions and this little alien pokes, it’s literal what it, like the emoji that it looks like on Instagram pops ups head up.

And I said, no, no, thank you. I’m just a human that chooses the light. I will be a boring ass human who chooses the light till the day [00:51:00] she dies. . Like, I don’t think I’m boring by any means, but you get what I’m saying. Right. I just, um, yeah. But again, that’s, you know, for people who feel that way and then, you know, the, the folks that I’ve spoken with and work with, who they feel.

What’s the word? Like a family with the galactic beings. But again, it’s because the galactic beings are not being intrusive. They’re providing feelings of consistent safety and warmth. They’re not being intrusive. I’m gonna say that again cuz it needs to be said. They’re giving them insights, they’re giving them guidance.

Mm-hmm. . Those are all really, really good, great, amazing things. So, right. It goes back to, um, respect for our energy. It’s energetic boundaries. And so, and these beings, and it’s so unique to our humanness too. I mean, we’re spiritual beings having a human [00:52:00] experience. You know, we’ll just repeat that again and again, and depending on our soul’s purpose here and what we’re to evolve and learn through on this, you know, in this lifeline.

Galactic could come through and help support an evolution of your soul. Yeah. Not everybody’s gonna have these interactions, you know, it just, it just depends. We’re so unique, like the, you know, the hair on our head and everything is so unique, so unique. But in the event that we are interacting with Galactic, yeah.

It’s about providing insight, guidance, um, helping us to evolve to a greater version of ourselves, you know? Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. , um, really embracing our power and, and it really helps evolve humanity too. That’s the other thing. It’s like if we are, as a species trying to align more with our potentials as opposed to [00:53:00] living small and being, you know, caught up in aggression and war and poverty and greed, you know, all these dynamics that are actually playing out on the third.

dimensional plane here. These galactic, you know, the ones that are very benevolent, they do, they bring in so many good, beautiful insights and, and they change our, they help us to change and evolve our vibration. Yeah. Yeah. And eventually, one of these days we are all gonna evolve and be those helpers for other people on the other side or some version of it.

Mm-hmm. , I mean, I’m, I know you’ve seen a lot, but it’s incredible to me. Someone who has a loved one who’s crossed over, connects with them in one of our sessions, and then they’re in special projects. And my mind is just blown. And I’m like, there’s been multiple times where loved ones, it’s interesting, loved ones have crossed over at what you and I [00:54:00] and the world would consider an inopportune time in their life.

Yet they go on to these really special projects because as humans, we very understandably feel so much grief with things when they erupt that way. But it’s, it’s makes me wonder sometimes, you know, when they go and work on these things that are just truly magical. Um, was there a greater purpose for it?

And I don’t have an answer for that, but these are the things that I contemplate when I see things like that. So yeah, from the human, when we’re left behind, you know, and we lose a, a loved one. Yeah. Um, It’s really hard to process on the human level. We, we take it so personal, like, how could you leave me

Yeah, of course. Um, but as long as we can kinda zoom out, take our head up out of the suffering and the grief process, still grieve, but come up for air and try and repa, [00:55:00] um, we might not be able to know the bigger picture. You know, sometimes we have that veil, that’s the veil. We can’t see the greater picture here, but that’s part of us, um, having faith and trusting our faith.

That’s faith in ourselves to carry on and mm-hmm. and, um, hindsight is always a beautiful 2020. You know, we can’t see the gift that’s being offered in our, in the moment. Yeah. But down the road you’re like, oh, it all makes sense now. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That is true. Let’s talk about the veil a little bit more.

So what is, how would you describe the veil? What’s the veil to you? What you just mentioned, you already touched on it, but Yeah. That’s the big elusive word. To me, the veil is the body. Hmm. Because as soon as we shed the physical body, like in death or transition, [00:56:00] we are across the veil, you know, the veil.

Yeah. Um, this is very much a gravitational pull. The body is, to me, gravity. This just sounds, I’m just always trying to analyze how can I describe, you know, gravity. Well, emotions keep us grounded here. Yeah. You know, that’s, that’s the, to me, that’s gravity. You know, it’s, um, it’s a, and also emotions can connect us to loved ones too.

So. It is the gravitational pull, if you will love, if we’re trying to connect to a love one across the veil, all we do is connect through our heart, you know, love. And that that person bring ’em to our thoughts. We’re connected. It’s the gravitational magnetic pull that aligns us. And that’s just, that’s the world.

I think the universe at large is a magnetic universe, and I, it could apply to everything. Everything we put our thoughts [00:57:00] to this is the power of thought and our mind is when we focus on something repetitively, it acts and it pulls it towards us. Mm-hmm. the magnetic pull. Mm-hmm. . So the veil is, it’s like the, the filter that just separates our perception, you know, as far as the perception, because it, our mind, it’s all.

What we perceive, if we perceive that we’re separate from our loved ones in across the veil or our guides, other dimensions, it’s a perception that we are separate. It’s a filter. So if we, through meditation, um, and I have a practice that I, you know, when I wanna thin the veil per se, I go into a deep meditation and I just expand my consciousness outward.

Mm-hmm. stay in my body, but I expand my consciousness and the veil drops. And then now I’m perceiving [00:58:00] dimensions where I put my focus, ancestors, guides, extraterrestrials, . Mm-hmm. , galactic, you know, remote viewing. You know, that’s how you remote view. If you wanna travel, you just drop the veil through meditation.

And then you fine tune your focus. Where are you gonna put your atten attention? Yeah, yeah. Attention with intention. Thanks for explaining that so beautifully. It’s a little abstract, but Yeah. Well, energy’s abstract. And when Kathy talks about dropping into meditation, my version of that would be dropping into your light.

So, yeah, exactly. That’s a centering, dropping in. Exactly. It’s all, it’s all the same really. It’s not out here. It’s not out here. It’s right here. You know, that’s another funny thing is, How our spirit guides are within our energy field, . And it’s like, where’s everybody fitting? , how [00:59:00] are you doing this? Why are you not all, you know, in a backpack behind me.

Crowded. Yeah. . Yeah. Oh. I mean, I know that they will show up in different ways, especially in sessions. They’ll show up like to the side in the front and the back and all that stuff. Yeah. Cause it helps us create a landscape. Exactly. It’s a, it’s a, it’s a landscape. And what is interesting, I have a, a friend who’s a shaman mm-hmm.

And she was telling me in a workshop once that shamans, when they journey, they journey through the left ventricle of their heart. That’s how they go in. Mm-hmm. . And they access the universe that way. So it is an inward journey. So you go in and sure enough, the universe just opens up. Ooh, yeah. You’re not going out, you’re, you’re going within.

And then the universe opens up. Yeah. Yeah. And you can go anywhere you want your journey. Yeah. Yep. And that’s why I so [01:00:00] connect to the light first, cuz when you connect to the light first, your journeying will be safe and you’ll stay grounded. I thought of one of the comments, uh, you and I had spoken at the same time.

This was back when we were talking about how ETS will take people out of their bodies. Mm-hmm. . And I was, I asked the guides, I said, okay, so do some of you stay behind and guard the body? And they said, oh yes. And then do some of you go with them? And they said, those who are allowed. So like go with the soul through that journey.

So, because again, I’m thinking, well all guides come, well, I guess I should say spirit team. I won’t say spirit guides, spirit team. Um, Yeah. It’s like who’s looking out for who and who, you know, how are they protecting individuals who are taking this path? So yeah, I’d say[01:01:00]

if you, I’m checking it. I’m checking. Yeah, I know you are. I know you are. Take your time. I pause on this podcast a lot as I’m digesting information from them. Yeah, it’s a, this is a lot of, I mean, this is a topic that there’s gonna be such a wide variety of experiences. Oh, totally. And yeah, I think there’s definitely those who will stay behind and, and, and say, keep an eye on things.

You know, there’s definitely, I call ’em like, A, you know, they’re helpers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Their a the support. Yeah. But you know, again, to to what end, what to what end are they, you know, taking the, you know, a client’s consciousness or in some cases their physical body. And you know what’s interesting, I just wanna slip this in there.

Mm-hmm.

it seemed like there was a period in our history where that was a very common thing, [01:02:00] that they would actually take the physical bodies, but they aren’t taking the physical bodies as much. Now. Gives me chills. It is, it’s kind of interesting. And I, and I haven’t quite figure that out. I mean, cause I have a human curiosity, like, well, why is that?

Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think maybe we’re just not hearing about it as much because I think as we’ve gone down through the decades, this topic is, as much as we want it to be open and talked about freely, I think there’s still a level of suppression, of skepticism that really squashes people’s experiences. And um, so we’re, you know, maybe we’re not hearing about it as much.

Um, I can only speak to the clients I worked on, but it seems like when they were younger, they were definitely physically taken , and they haven’t had that, at least to their [01:03:00] understanding, it’s their consciousness that slips, their body stays behind. And it is like an out-of-body experience, be quite honest.

You know, we have out-of-body experience, so that’s astral projection, that’s kind of our own spirit leaving the body. But in this case, there’s another influence that’s. Taking, right. Is that because the food, because you and I are in America, so mm-hmm. , um, and I mean I’m, my sessions are virtual, so, but who we’re talking about have actually been American clients.

Our food is such garbage here and so processed. Maybe they can’t even get ’em through the stratosphere. I’m totally being cheeky. I’m being cheeky. . Do you know what I mean? , it’s like you can’t take your human flesh. That’s right. You’re just junk food. gives you guys, oh my god. Truth in that. Who knows? I was, I was just kidding.

Being cheeky. But that is, [01:04:00] American diets are pretty emphatic compared to. other countries, but I, some days I’ve, I had to have kind of worked on that. Well, this is a sidetrack from the topic conversation, but you know, some days it feels like, oh my gosh, what, is there anything out there that’s gonna be good for me to eat?

Right. You feel like you’re dodging bullets kind of when you’re Yeah. It’s a little, it gets a little scary at times. Yeah. Especially, we just do the best we can and, and just run energy through it as best, you know, like you can charge it with energy. Yeah. Bring some life in. Amen. Amen. Yeah. You know, sometimes I’ll clear meat and I’ll get the sensation from not just one animal, but multiple, because they’ve combined the meat.

Uh oh. Right. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. So back to ets. I feel like we have barely scratched the surface. Yeah. And , we, if there, is there anything else that you wanted to, the one things that keeps popping into my mind, [01:05:00] Is I did a house clearing one time, and you had mentioned, and this is something that I talk about with clients too, but you had mentioned, okay, so you see like repeating patterns with people.

Mm-hmm. repeating tells, and that’s one of the many ways you train yourself, get trained on how, okay, so this is a commonality and this now means X, y, Z. So when I do house clearings and it feels like every house clearing is different, but I was seeing this, for me, neon green energy filtered throughout this house.

And I was like, what the heck is that? What the heck is that? And as I’m holding space for it, it’s clearing. So I was like, okay, so obviously this was not of the light, which I didn’t, I don’t even know if I doubted that for a second. And all of a sudden I realized it was extraterrestrial. Yeah. And this was not the client’s path.

Okay. So, um, right. [01:06:00] That’s just why it was meant to be cleared. And that’s exactly what we’re talking about. Again, it goes back to this, it’s just we’re clearing a house and, and it’s training the house to hold an in integrity or a structure of energy that says it’s a home. So closing portals. Doorways. Yeah.

Um, and the, the one house I cleared had a, um, kind of like a portal or a doorway. Let’s try it. Elevator shaft, energetic. It’s only way I can describe it. Yeah. And so they had visitations when they were both boys, when they were young. They wrote, they grew up in this home that I was clearing. They’re adult men now.

Mm-hmm. can remember being visited, um, by tall whites. They call ’em tall whites. Mm-hmm. . And, but they would kind of, They’d go to bed that they would energetically, one would go down a tunnel and journey [01:07:00] and just go off. Mm-hmm. and the other one, a door would open in the wall and he’d walk through in his mind’s eye

He’d walk through and go off and journey with these tall whites. So it was interesting how in this upstairs part of this home there were these doorways. And so when I cleared the house is because the house was already marked for in extraterrestrial visitation. Yeah. And a negative one slipped in a reptilian and was causing problems.

It was not a tall white. So I had to really work hard to clear close that door shove. Cuz Reptilians, as the name implies, is they’re pretty aggressive. You know, they don’t have a lot of feeling . Mm-hmm. . But it was, that was just, like you said, there’s the house just. Yes. Again, we have to just clear the house and retrain the house, close the doorways, close the portals, set clear boundaries, and instruct the [01:08:00] residents what clear boundaries mean.

People. You have to hold boundaries. people don’t realize they have a choice. They do. They’re, they’re living in the house. So it goes back to boundaries. You, you’re, you have to have good energetic boundaries for yourself. Mm-hmm. . And then the house that you live in is just an extension of you. So you have to have clear boundaries there too.

Totally. Energetically, so, right. Yeah. I think we’re gonna learn that we’re gonna be communing with our homes and our spaces. I mean, now this is not anything new, right? You look at other cultures. They’ve been doing this long before our time, but I think we’re gonna start to finally really commune with our homes more and how, yeah.

Support each other in the land run. I’m excited for it. That’s right. It is. We’re moving into a new, um, vibration as well. I’ll just kind of zoom out a little bit. Our, our galactic center, we’re [01:09:00] moving into a different vibrational field in our solar system. I mean, every planet’s going through this shift.

Mm-hmm. . And so we are changing, um, in a galactic way, vibrationally. So, you know, everything’s shifting. And so Yeah, you’re right. Our homes, it’s, we are moving. It’s interesting. You start looking at these parallels, you know? Yeah. 30, 40 years ago everything was so nuts and bolts. Brick and mortar. And now we’re getting, 40 years ago was the eighties.

I just learned like in another, wait, did I get that right? 40 years ago was the eighties. Yeah. Um, yeah. And everything was so tangible, physical. Brick and mortar, and then you go back like the, to the fifties and sixties. Yeah. It’s still brick and mortar. Everybody had very, you know, businesses, computers weren’t even invented yet, or at least not the kind that we’re using.

Mm-hmm. . Um, we have moved into a virtual world now. Everything’s very computerized. AI is [01:10:00] coming onto the front and we’re talking about extraterrestrials. Yeah. This is a topic. There is artificial intelligence out there, and that’s why, and there’s transhumanism out there. There’s, there are some really interesting dynamics unfolding in our reality.

So as we move into a virtual re world and working remotely, This is why I say work on your lights. Stay centered, stay embodied, have a clear sense of who you are in your body. Because when we start getting into these virtual realities, we are starting to put our consciousness somewhere else and it’s not in our bodies.

And so it kind of opens us up to a whole host of problems, um, and ai. Oh, go. And they’ve been, they’ve been dripping it to us, like the technology’s been there long before they roll it out to us. Mm-hmm. . So [01:11:00] that’s why sometimes like social media does really amazing things, right? Like today, I just found this gal on social media who, oh my gosh, I’m so excited about her page.

Never seen her before, but she’s got these amazing paleo healthy recipes. So I’m so grateful for social media in so many ways. Yet there’s a reason we don’t feel great when we get off social media. And it’s all, that’s just one of the many things that’s happening. It’s interesting to me that our physical world is headed in, I wouldn’t say headed.

We’re on this path. All of these artificial. Technologies and are entering our biosphere. And at the same time, more and more people are reclaiming their power, reclaiming their sense of health, reclaiming their essence of them. So to me it’s gonna be so interesting to see how it all shakes out, whether I’m here or on the other side of the veil.

I just want, the veil is so beautiful, Kathy, I just call it the other side, . I know. I’ll go, I’ll gladly do their side. . [01:12:00] So anyway, yeah, it’s gonna be really interesting to see. But you know, if you’re listening to this, you’re someone who’s on this journey that’s really, you are not just claiming your light, but you’re bringing more light into this world.

Right. Exactly. And that’s where our power is. It’s right here in the center. , you know, this topic that we’re talking about today is so timely because we are going through some major shifts in our collective as far as how we relate to each other, um, how we conduct business. Mm-hmm. entertainment. Um, and it does speak to just this bigger cosmic shift that we’re going through on a, on a galactic scale.

Mm-hmm. . Um, but it’s more important now than ever to stay in our body, in our power and centered and. Yeah. Stay. Stay home . Yeah. And And you can interact with these beings by staying home too. You don’t have to go out into your [01:13:00] body. Exactly. Exactly. And ask your spirit team to help filter it for you or ask them to bring you an example of what would be good for you.

And who knows. It may not even be something galactic, it may be something you don’t even know, . It could be really, but we’re still constantly learning. There’s, gosh, there’s, it’s like our oceans, we have no idea. And we’ve only explored just a small percentage of our oceans and what’s really down there. And that’s our consciousness.

I always think our consciousness is very similar to the oceans. We can’t see everything. We don’t know everything. Right, right. We’re always. always learning. So what would you recommend to someone who wants to practice being more in their own personal light, in their own personal body, in their own personal space and grow that, like what would be, what would you recommend to somebody starting out?

So, you know, I always, you know, there’s, I [01:14:00] think when we’re first starting out on this journey, I think it’s like self-awareness and it just becoming self-aware, knowing that our actions do have an impact on the world around us. It’s not always us being focused on the outer world and letting knit inform us.

It’s about staying centered and, and this is about just like, like you said, reclaiming our power, the outer rule. There’s no shortage of how the world will try and tell us who we are or take our power away. Um, it’s always judging. It wants to keep us feeling small and by, I say small by disempowered. So coming back to ourself is just starting off with just checking in with ourselves.

At the end of the day, how do we feel? Am I tired? Self-care, self nurturance, and, and taking a look at our, you know, as we sit, it might feel unusual to sit here and just, well, [01:15:00] how do I feel? But it’s getting in touch with also, I call it like the subconscious mind as well. The subconscious one is the one that is holds the, the knee jerk reactions that we have to the world around us.

It’s like, you know, it’s like if we react. To say some words that somebody spoke to us, that is a subconscious reaction. It’s not a conscious reaction, it’s just an a reaction and it’s triggering something within the subconscious. Mm-hmm. . So it’s like, I always say, why am I reacting? Always asking why. Why do I react this way?

What are my hidden patterns and how can I heal into a more centered, balanced, awake? There’s so many words you can just drop in there, but mm-hmm. . So I always say at the end of the day, just check in self-awareness. It is about doing the inner work. You hear that phrase a lot. Do your [01:16:00] inner work. Yeah. I, um, it’s so rewarding, but it is challenging.

Mm-hmm. to go through. I do. And it become easier doing inner work.

It’s a spiral. I’ll, I’ll give you that. It is a spiral. It’s not a linear dur. It’s not a linear, I never said it was easy path. It’s not easy. You might think easy. Oh, I thought I already addressed that. Oh, it’s coming back and it’s smacking beside the head. I mean, I think what I meant was you. Not you, I mean like us, Columbus in general.

But what happens is the ability to see for yourself what your patterns are, what your blocks are, what your needs are, what your, it’s just ping me that my battery’s running low. Oh, it is? Oh, . Anyway, um, , but sure, I had to plug in this [01:17:00] microphone order instead of in lieu of power. So, okay. But it’s the ability to hold yourself through hard times.

Now, that does not mean all hard times and all hard lessons, cuz I don’t mm-hmm. , there’s things in life that can be beyond that. Um, but I’m talking about like the repeat patterns. The repeat lessons. You move through them, you move through them in a way that is more fluid. You know, you have tools now to support you.

That’s what I mean by easier. Definitely not easy. Right. And it is true. It is learning to build your toolbox. Um, yeah. And that’s gathering wisdom. As you go through life, we gather wisdom, and that is your tool. Mm-hmm. , you know, it’s like, it’s like what is the, what did I learn about myself going through that difficulty?

Oh, there it is. I always say, look for the silver line. There’s always wisdom gained so that we grow and learn about ourselves and know how resilient we are, you know, to go through difficult times. [01:18:00] So next time we have tools to like whip out. Yeah. There’s no place like home, like doing your own inner work.

There’s no place like Home my favorite movie, . Is that your favorite movie for a child? Yeah, I, yeah, I realized. Well, as a kid I’m like, oh, who would leave Emerald City? I love Emerald City. Who wants to go home to Kansas . But, um, but then when you look at the silver, the messaging was that she had the power within her the whole time to change her world.

I love that. And, um, that was, that was the message, that was the power was within her this whole time. Oh. And she didn’t have to go travel the, you know, Emerald City and back , so. Oh my gosh, that’s interesting. So does that mean as we close this session out that the message is, you can commune with your, I don’t even know what to [01:19:00] call it.

The, I don’t even wanna call, I don’t wanna call it anything, but So you, what we’ve talked about before, but you can commune with what you need to commune with within yourself. You don’t need to go anywhere. You don’t need to be all here. Yeah, exactly. You don’t have to defer to any other, um, so, you know, we have our guides.

Yes, they are here, but they’re. , our higher self has the same wisdom. People don’t, if you’ll understand that still. Yeah. Our guides are here helping our higher self execute. Yeah. They’re standing right with our higher self to guide us. But that wisdom is all here. Yeah. It’s all within us. So if we do the meditations and work within ourself and just expand and allow for that growth, all that truth is right here.

It’s all in the center of our light. Our light protects us. Mm-hmm. from interferences. As we get stronger in our power, our light, um, we have less noise Yes. In the world, and it’s less [01:20:00] noise. I always say, listen to the signal, through the noise, and that is your, your light. That is your signal. I love that for your signal through the noise.

I love that. And that just takes practice with being with yourself, with being with your light, with being in meditation and it’s, yeah. You know, there’s a lot of good things that come from like nature and nature walks. I’m not sure that there’s any substitute for simply being with yourself in stillness.

And I’ve noticed, um, I’ve kind of been watching a couple of people, great people, they, you know, used to be monks or stayed with monks for years on end. And then they, they came back into the wild, you know, they came back to live the kind of life you and I live. And I think it’s because I do think people who are born and, and who are.

Like that is their path in life. That’s what they chose, that’s what they want. But we, we can’t all be monks. And so I think there is this desire to really fill out all of our human existence here and [01:21:00] now, right? Reach enlightenment when you cross over the veil or when you jump over to the other side. But for now, enjoy the oranges, you know, enjoy the pudding.

Enjoy the feeling of water against your skin. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. That’s why we came here, that’s why we came here. . Yeah. And you know, we are expressions of light, you know, in physical form or, you know, expressions of the divine in physical form. And, um, yeah, nature is the great balancer. And so getting used to silence the world is a noisy place.

And so a lot of times it’s hard to sit still and meditate or just sit still and quiet. Listen to your heartbeat. Yeah. You know, just listen to your bite. Check into your right. People get uncomfortable. They get restless, but you have to train the mind to go still. You know? You have to stay with it. You have to train your mind.

Master the mind. Yeah. Master the mind. I say give, I always tell people, give the mind [01:22:00] something to do. So a guided meditation or focus on your life. Perfect. Have it run energy and it builds those new neural pathways. Oh gosh, yeah. Guided meditation’s. Perfect. Yes, yes. Yeah. There’s so many. I mean, there’s so many ways.

There’s so many ways. And I do like things, you know, people thing people put things, what am I trying to say? We’re supposed to end this now. That’s why I’m like tripping on. It’s like we could just keep talking. We could just keep talking. But I know, but there is, there are different ways. I say meditation brings you to the present moment and we can’t sit in meditation and be monks all the time.

No. So things like cooking will bring you into meditation. Gardening will bring you into meditation. There’s a lot of things that can, you know, sex and pleasurable bring you into meditation. So, but there is no substitute for just. Just stillness. Yeah. It’s a state of being. But yeah, nature to me is like, just get out in nature and just go for a walk and just focus on the present moment.

Look, notice nature. Look at nature. And that’ll occupy your mind. . Exactly. It’ll give your mind something to do. . [01:23:00] Yes. Um, I think we just like have part one. This is part one of this topic today. We might have to do part two, part one of who knows how. And I, you know, and to be honest, I wasn’t even sure how to tackle this topic.

I just know Yes. Big I was, I, I knew it was coming through and yeah. I appreciate you sharing your insights and your wisdom on it, Kathy, thank you so much. Absolutely. And there’s definitely, you know, lots of resources out there depending on what people’s level of interest is. But I’d say it all goes back to, like you said, staying in your light.

We’re all having very unique experiences with Yeah. The variety of beings out there. Yeah. And um, yeah, just stay centered and just aware. Yeah, staying life and know that you have choice. So yess, why always I shared, that’s why I shared my story. For me, it was not the best situation. So I said no, but at the same time, not all people are gonna feel that way.

And that’s [01:24:00] important too, right? So you can be curious and say, all right, what is this? Who are you? You can engage and try and get some, you know, engagement just to see what’s going on, to see if you can gather some intel, mm-hmm. , find out. But you can also just say, no, I do not consent to any of this interaction.

And, and just move them along as well too. Yeah. Um. Okay, so I had, I told you this before we started the podcast, I texted a group of friends of mine to see if they had any questions about aliens. Oh, aren’t you clever? . Why don’t we, why don’t we, I’m looking at the juice and I think, yeah. How are you doing more?

I’m good. I we’re gonna, we’re just gonna go till the end. Okay. Um, so one of the questions is, why do they know about us, but we don’t know about them? And then there’s more questions. So let’s start with that. So why do they know about us, but we don’t know about them? Um, we are, it’s a [01:25:00] really good question, I have to say, but it kind of goes to our level of awareness of dimensions.

I don’t know if there’s a movie out there called Flatland. Okay. And it’s a really, it’s an animated cartoon and it’s so clear in how it describes. Dimensions. Yeah. But we can only perceive third, maybe fourth down. Clearly we can’t, it’s very hard for us to see beyond third, maybe fourth dimension. Fourth is like just beyond like the Astrol plane.

Yeah. So, but they are way beyond, so they can see everything below their dimension very clearly. So if there’s six dimension, they can see everything. So they’re fully aware of us and they also are way more advanced technologic. We are very young species as humans, but we are so young and they’re very advanced.

You know, nutritions, I don’t even [01:26:00] remember what documentary I was watching, but they were showing how Earth has gone through these patterns and there has actually been more advanced technology than what we have on the earth plane before. And they found it buried in rocks when they go digging. And it just, I’m like, holy crap.

We know we . Yeah. We get. We just think we are like the only kid on the block. Yeah. Our current species and earth has had many incarnations. Yeah. In, in my understanding, we are not that at the top of the food chain, if you will, . Right, right. Thank you for explaining that so well. Yeah. We are very young. We are very young.

Race or species. So are there any aliens that are like humans? . Oh yeah. The humanoids. Yes. Yes. We talk about what humanoids are for a second. . Oh yes. Humanoids. Oh, it’s a humanoid. Humanoid is a head, two arms, two legs and a torso. They usually have two eyes. [01:27:00] Everything’s like the, just how we, we are humanoid.

Mm-hmm. . Um, so like when I was describing the tall whites earlier, they are taller than us, maybe seven or eight feet in height. Mm-hmm. , white, whiter skin. But they do have like white hair that’s a humanoid. They don’t have our flesh tones, but they are humanoid. Mm-hmm. . Um, so, but there are, In my experience, from what I have encountered, they are humanoid, but their skin tone isn’t gonna be like peachy like we are, or earth tones.

We have flesh tones here, but there’s a wide range. Even in humans, we have a wide range of flesh tone. Yes. So humanoids have a different range of skin tones as well. Got it, got it. And textures, I should say textures too. And they don’t often, I was gonna say live and the guide said, operate on this earth [01:28:00] plane.

Right. Um, or do they, so do they operate on this earth plane? Meaning like meaning, would they live in an apartment in Queen Anne and have a job at Google? There have been reported cases, yes. , I don’t know about currently, but. Yes, there have been in they take. So this is what’s interesting. I can only speak from the research I’ve read and talk to other researchers and other healers.

Mm-hmm. they can occupy. Remember this body is a neat suit. Mm-hmm. our spirits animate it. They can’t animate a meat suit. , there are shape shifters. that’s, [01:29:00] yes. So there’s that. And I just don’t wanna get too far off and just start creating sci-fi, like, like storytelling. This is, however, this is part one.

This is why we have part one. . Yeah, . So it is, it’s the same as when there is, um, a possession entity inside of a, you know, human body. There is another being inside driving the bus, if you will. There, there’s another being in the body. So an extra traditional can occupy a body. And it’s hard for them though, especially the higher frequency ones.

It’s hard for them to drop their density down into this physical reality. So they can’t maintain it, from my understanding, for very long periods of time. Hmm. So, um, hold a job at Amazon, , , um, they might be able to phase in and out. You know, cuz that’s the other thing. We we’re applying human logic to what [01:30:00] they can do.

Through our understanding, they can pop and phase in and out. It’s just like cloaking, their ships can cloak in and out of our existence. Left. I mean, it’s just so easy. Phasing in, phasing out. It’s a, a dimensional shift. It’s frequency. That’s such a good way of putting it. Someone sent me a picture, they sent me a picture of the neighbor’s roof and there was actually a spaceship in it.

Oh wow. Wow. And I sent it to a bunch of my friends and I was like, what do you see here? And it, and it couldn’t be mistaken for a drone or anything like that, but yeah. Okay. One other question. Oh, go ahead. What were you gonna say? No, I was gonna say, yeah, so think about, it’s just about frequency. It’s like radio tuning, dialing it into a frequency, it can phase in and.

Yeah. Yeah. Those things that we’re probably capable of, but don’t even realize it yet too. Well, I guess we’ll get there. We’re not quite at that. Okay. Um, the question is, do we [01:31:00] bother them? Why have they gotten sloppy about hiding? Maybe it’s intentional. Um,

yeah. Yeah. I think that there’s no, it is, it’s interesting, like maybe there were, we weren’t supposed to see them, but I’m like, but maybe we were mm-hmm. , that type of thing. You know, it’s like, I can’t speak to what their agendas are. Maybe it’s just like peeling back the veil a little bit and letting the certain groups see them, because you can have two people staring at the same area of.

And one will see something and the other person’s not. It’s like standing with, like doing a house clean. Some person will see the ghost in the corner and the other person will not. It’s what we’re attuning to. And you, there’s also reported cases where that there is direct communication coming through, you know, like say [01:32:00] a part of like, there’ll be something out in space.

There’ll be a group of people noticing an event. Yeah. And there’s information being telepathically transferred to that group of people. Yes. So you can just teach. There’s so much is happening that we, there’s so outside of our understanding of reality. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So I was like, but was it an accident or is it really sloppy

Totally. Totally. And I love that. Yes. Not she asked that question too, because, Again, I’m like, why have I? Because this is not my wheelhouse. I have experience with it. I love supporting the energy work around people who are going down this path. However, it’s not my personal experience, so I’m like, why was this coming to fruition?

And I have to believe we’re having this conversation for a reason. Mm-hmm. , I will say I do have some sort of an inkling that there is gonna be like a [01:33:00] final, I don’t know if it’s like an unveiling, a truth, a whatever, and then we need to kind of figure out what to do with it. So we’re gonna start seeing, I’m just checking.

Like you said, you always check, check. Oh, absolutely. I think we’re gonna start seeing more and more instances of, um, they call ’em UAPs now. , unidentified aerial phenomenon. , they used to be called UFOs, but they’ve relabeled it now. Um, so UFOs. . Yeah. UFOs. UFOs. I think we’re gonna start seeing a lot more documented and published reports through the government channels, but I think what really is happening is it’s happening down at the grassroots level.

It’s happening with average everyday citizens. Yeah. And cuz governments are always in the business of control and they’re, they can’t control this . They’re trying and they’re definitely our militaries are trying, but [01:34:00] um, yes, they are, they are in the business. Yeah. There’s definitely a lot going on there.

I mean, I love the topic. I, I definitely follow forums and under, you know, I just gather information. Yeah. That’s how we learn. That’s why we had this conversation today is just to share information. Yeah. You also, it’s absorbing hit on another point about how they communicate telepathically. And I think that’s something I forgot to have us mention is how do they communicate with us?

that’s, yeah. Telepathically, . Um, so it’s, it’s through our psychic field. It’s, that is, it’s that intuitive field. A tele telepathy, you know, they’re, they are, and of course this is something I’ve researched that they always speak the language. Doesn’t matter what the language speaker is, like what’s French, Italian, Spanish, English.

That [01:35:00] extraterrestrial is always communicating them through the language they know. Yeah. Telepathically. And it’s the same way we’re first connecting, doing mediumship. Doesn’t matter whether the deceased one only spoke Spanish, they will communicate. With Spanish or English, I’m sorry. Even though they only spoke Spanish because telepathically, there’s a conversion filter that happens.

Oh, nice. But, but ets speak telepathic. They also can do, um, drop in visual. This is where this thing, that time where we were talking earlier about the time lapse. Mm-hmm. losing time, they can drop in imagery to replace the experience with visual imagery. In other words, it gets a little tricky. It’s like, they call that, I think I call like a mind wipe , where a memory wipe or they erase the memory banks for that time period.

So you just [01:36:00] might think, oh, I was, we were just over here at the beach. They install memories so that you don’t have conscious memories of an event. Reminds me of men in Black when they would bli people, that thing. Oh wait, there’s always a little bit of truth in everything. . Right, right. Just a little bit of truth.

Well, that’s true. That little like beep, they just have a little light. They just flash you. But I did not know that they will insert new memories. That’s why it’s a little interesting because I always like, there might be an agenda. So hypnosis is always really a good avenue to try and uncover those repressed or hidden memories.

Amazing. Um, I mean, I always, it’s find out a good regressionist. It’s the one that doesn’t prompt you with, you know, lead in questions so that she’s, they’re telling. Your memories. Right, right, right. slippery slope. [01:37:00] But yeah, they can install new memories. So I always like be very, let’s say, stay in your light, connect to your light, be very sovereign in your energy so that you’re not easily manipulated or you know, controlled.

Yeah, yeah. Listener in your conscious. . And when in doubt, just tell your light or your yourself, your higher self, your spirit team. I need a pause. I need a pause, and I need support. Like there’s no problem in pausing. Yeah. So that’s, that’s where your power lies. Yeah. Just like, Hey, I’ve gotta digest this for a minute.

Exactly. Yeah. Um, but yeah, but it answers your question. Telepathy. . Yeah, . So it’s the Vulcan mine meld. I’m just kidding. It like Star Trek, just the Vulcan mine Meld. . There’s a little bit of truth in everything. There is a little bit of truth. Well, thank you so much, so, so much. Oh, it has been fun. I [01:38:00] love this topic.

Yeah, it’s a big one. I could talk for. Yeah, it is a big one and I think that it’s gonna come up again in the near future, and I’m looking forward to chatting it with you and remind everyone where can they find you? You do, oh, do virtual energy sessions as well over the phone? Mm-hmm. ? Um, yeah, so where can they find you?

Yeah, I, my website, it’s a long one, but it’s basically my name Kathy Meic. And that’s c a t h y m e s I c k. Mm-hmm. hyphen. Energy intuitive.com. That’s my website. And there’s an email, you know, link there if they wanna email me with questions or Awesome. Book a session. It’s all pretty self-explanatory.

Self-serve on that website, . That’s awesome. And thanks to the girls for posing those questions. When I ask. Yeah, the group text, we’ll get some more. We’ll collect some more for our next, I think so let’s do this again, because I think we just skimmed [01:39:00] the surface, but. Yes, extraterrestrials are real. They’re just

Interdimensional. Yeah. There you go. So if you have more questions, you can email Kathy, or you can email me, connect emily marie.com with your questions. Please don’t feel weird talking about this stuff is not the easiest thing, and emailing your questions may feel kind of funky. Just send him Yeah, we, we love him.

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Episode #34

You have choices: Galactic ET & Other Energies with Cathy Mesick

Have you ever wondered what to do if you encountered an energy not of your kind, what are your options, and how do you know what’s good and what isn’t for you?  Certified Reiki Master, Energy Intuitive, and Light Weaver, Cathy Mesick is back to join Emily in an empowering discussion about galactic beings and extraterrestrial energies. If you’re wanting an intentional conversation, covering a big topic, rest assured you will feel empowered in knowing that you are not alone in being curious, having your own experiences, and also desiring clarity.  The topics are fascinating and they’re just getting started.  Emily and Cathy offer multiple recommendations to practice claiming and reclaiming your power and welcome your comments and experiences, reach out to us via email or DM.

Just some of the topics covered:

  • What is an alien?
  • How we interact with aliens based on our belief system
  • Positive & negative experiences of ETs
  • Abductions – what happens with our body?
  • Concept of time – daydreaming vs hypnosis
  • Energetic boundaries
  • The veil – what is the greater picture?
  • Moving into a new vibration
  • Why do they know about us but we don’t know about them?
  • Are there any aliens that are like humans?
  • How do they communicate with us?
  • & much more!

About Cathy:

Cathy is a certified Reiki Master Teacher, Energy Intuitive and Light Weaver. She brings a practical, grounded approach to energy healing. Her in-depth training in energy healing and shamanic practices focus on energetic imbalances within the body and its human energy fields, providing insights as to the causes and assisting the client in returning to a state of well-being, vitality, and balance.

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Episode Transcript

You have choices: Galactic, ET, & Other Energies with Cathy Mesick

[00:00:00] Welcome everyone to the Your Energy First Podcast. I’m your host, Emily Marie, and it is such a pleasure to have you here today to co-create with you in this space and to talk about all things your energy.

Welcome back to the podcast everyone. It is so good to have you here today. I am so excited because I have Kathy Meek back and her and I are gonna have a discussion today, an empowering discussion about alternate energies, energies that are not of this earth. One of the terms we all know well are aliens, and this is not a conversation about do aliens exist or not.

This is for you if you are pretty sure that they do and you’re curious to. Learn a little bit more about it from [00:01:00] a, from the perspective of how do we, you know, my intention behind holding space for this episode, because this was coming to me, I was gonna say weeks originally, but it’d actually been months, is I just want you folks to feel empowered in knowing that you have options, should you ever encounter anything.

Um, I personally work with folks who have positive experiences and I think sometimes we see a lot of things online that sort of turn us off to that stuff. And it is kind of a freaky topic, I’m not gonna lie. It’s, it’s freaky because it’s not something we’re taught about. It’s not something that’s well understood yet.

And so my intention, you know, I also wanna point. I myself, and I can, I can speak for Kathy cuz we talked about this before we got started. But we both took means to take care of our energy, to take care of ourselves, the space, holding space for this container, for [00:02:00] this conversation, for this session. So my intention is that you feel empowered and know that you have choices when it comes to this topic.

And Kathy, welcome. Thank you, Emily. It’s good to be back. . Yeah. And what is your intention for this podcast episode? Um, you know, this is a very good question. My intention today is to inform to the best of my ability and kind of unpack this topic of all topics in some, you know, some circles. This is a very big topic.

Yeah. And, um, and just provide, you know, And, and more clarity around this topic. Um, it holds space for us in this, you know, discussion today that, um, yeah, just shed light on it and hopefully, um, just kind of add information to this and answer questions that, you know, come up between the two of us and yeah.

What our listeners might have, you know, and they Yeah. [00:03:00] Pond this . Yeah. And, you know, I should mention, so this is, you know, normally a recording like this, I would have, you know, people from the inner light community here, but this was one that needed to just because the topic, it’s, it’s a really, it can be a finicky energy and there’s a responsibility when we hold space for a group of people to take care of their energy.

And it’s not that we couldn’t do it, it just felt like we needed to focus on the topic at hand and be more in flow. Perfect. Perfect answer. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. So how did you get into the topic of, I don’t even, I’m trying to think what we call it originally. I think when I asked you about this, I asked you about, I think I said aliens and extraterrestrials, and now it’s kind of gone beyond that scope even so.

Mm-hmm. , why don’t we start with, I’m asking the guides , why don’t we kind of start with the alien, the extraterrestrial. When did you start to notice that they [00:04:00] existed in life? Um, you know, probably goes back to, well least in my childhood, it was one of those Saturday afternoon sitting down in front of the TV and watching Saturday matinee and a lot of the movies dealt with, you know, Aliens, invasions, war, the worlds.

Right? So it puts the awareness of that topic in your psyche, but it was fear-based at that point, but there’s still a grand mystery around it. Mm-hmm. . So that’s kind of how my awareness came out. But, you know, watching movies, that’s how everything kind of paranormal shows up in your words. It’s a collective mm-hmm.

But as I, um, you know, and you always, I had an interest in, you know, space. You know, we had telescopes growing up, so you’re always looking to the heavens, you know, you are looking up, looking at stars. And my dad was always, you know, curious. My mom, you know, they both brought up the topic thinking they would [00:05:00] see things or hear things.

and, and I don’t know, we were young. Mm-hmm. , so I don’t know to what degree my parents were having their discussions cuz there were things making the news back then. If you go back and read tabloids, you know, I love that there are things making the news, but fast forward to when I start my healing business and start going down the, the pathway of energy work.

And it, it still, this all dovetails into paranormal, you know, that’s my background was paranormal investigations. But if you start researching this enough, you start seeing how everything kind of overlaps. There’s, you know, if you, it’s just, everything’s interconnected. And so the term alien, you know, that’s just kind of a, a catchall term.

What is an alien? Well, it’s, yeah. Our collective pop culture has defined alien as a little green man. Mm-hmm. , you know. Mm-hmm. , you know, my favorite Martian, you know, one of those. [00:06:00] Sixties, you know Right. Series that were comedy, but yeah. So it was like, yeah. The Martian off world, it was something other than human.

Yeah. You know, otherworldly. Right. But when you get into the world of energy work, in some ways, everything that we work with outside of this physical reality is off world. It’s other dimensional. It’s, I call it like ultra dimensional. Yeah. So aliens can be ultra dimensional, interdimensional, mm-hmm. . And as we discuss and kind of unpack this topic, you’ll see why we call them interdimensional or interdimensional.

Um, um, yeah. So that’s kind of how I was just kind of like Saturday matinee is the fast forward energy healer, and, and actually interacting with them now. So it’s not so farfetched. Yeah, but a lot of our fears are based on pop culture and what, you know, Hollywood likes to tell us we’re dealing with.

[00:07:00] Exactly. Oh mm-hmm. . Oh, Hollywood and mainstream news. Oh, Hollywood. So silly. So silly. So my background was different. My background, we were, you know, we were going to church and. I, I remember thinking that the world was just, I was like, there’s no one else out there but us. and I, and I had this inkling, I think that I knew the truth, but I didn’t want it to be true.

I was like, oh, it’s just so complex. And then I have to be responsible for my life and, you know, can’t I just take the whatever pill, whatever color pill it is, and just kind of stay numb to reality? I think that’s the blue pill. . Oh, the, the blue pill is the one where we, that’s the blue pill watching mainstream media.

Okay. . So, and then finally I was like, you know, I can’t ignore this anymore. And I’ve actually had a few experiences myself, at least two, the guides are saying there’s been a few more I just didn’t know to identify them as [00:08:00] such, and I’m gonna share my experiences around it, which I never thought I would publicly.

I don’t know why. . But it happens. But also I have some clients who are so incredible and they work with galactic beings. Galactic beings. Yeah. And I’ve seen so many cool things and just learned so much from their sessions and seen so many cool things. And I know for you the same. So when it comes to aliens, you know, aliens are just one tiny piece of the pie.

Yeah. And their energy like anything else. So, That’s why I always encourage you people to remember their light. You know, if you ever have an experience where you’re thinking, you know, and your experience will tell you, right? Like, if it feels good, it’s good for you. If it doesn’t feel good, it’s not good for you, and you do know the difference.

So, but just remember your light or throughout this podcast, if we’re talking about something and you start to feel [00:09:00] discomfort, you just wanna remember your light and your light will, okay, let’s go. Their light will, your light will set you free. Um, your light will keep you safe also, as long as you mine your business, right?

So, Yep. Stay in your lane, . Exactly. I’m always joking with Michael Live. Just stay in your lane. Yeah. It’s a really cool thing to stay in your lane too. I think we underestimate it, so there’s a lot of possibility there. We don’t have to do it all. We don’t have to do it all. So what would you, how would you kind of frame aliens to start?

Like what have, what’s your experience been like with aliens? You know, I’ve kind of had a crash course in them as far as working with them within my healing business. Mm-hmm. . Um, it’s one thing to watch in research. There’s no shortage of publications and books and YouTube videos on this topic. Mm-hmm. , but I can only speak from my actual experiences with [00:10:00] them in my healing practice.

And I’ve had both, not me personally, but with clients and how they’ve interacted with maybe a little more, you know, less than, Favorable interactions. So there’s definitely certain groups that are just like, you know, in our last interview or our last podcast, we were talking about, you know, entities sometimes like attached to our field.

Mm-hmm. , it’s just as with every being, every human, there’s good and not so good. You know, there’s just a broad spectrum of interactions, but it’s also how we interact with them through our, you know, our belief systems. So you, can you expand on that a little bit? How we interact with them based on our belief system.

So going into, if we are fear-based, if we, you know, disempowered, we will feel disempowered when we [00:11:00] interact with these beings. And we might just have the perspective. It’s bad. They’re bad, everything’s bad. So we’re gonna be in a fear state of mind. So we’re automatically, maybe if we were just neutral, realizing, oh, they’re not bad.

It’s just another type of energetic being, trying to make contact with you. Yeah. You know, it’s just reframing our belief system. So if we’re always conditioned to think that it’s evil or bad, you know? Mm-hmm. , just shun, shun, shun. Mm-hmm. , you know, we might just be missing a really beautiful opportunity to raise our consciousness, raise our awareness.

And that’s something I want to address throughout our call or talk tonight about consciousness here, cuz it’s a big component. Um, and. If we are just in a more neutral, balanced, grounded state of awareness and we’re connecting to these beings, and it’s a, you know, [00:12:00] mutual, it’s just like spirit guides, you know, they’re, they are connecting to us and there’s different frequencies within this bandwidth, if you will.

Mm-hmm. and there are galactic that will wanna, you know, connect with you. And that could be your spirit guide as well. It’s not just, yeah. A hu there’s so, I just don’t like to use labels cause it really boxes things in. Same, but our spirit guides could be a galactic from some star system, like ln, you know, it just that.

You know, or Vegas, you know Vegas, yeah. . Yeah. And I even say I, you know, it’s funny you say spirit guide and I also use the term spirit team because I’ve found mm-hmm that like our, you know, our spirit guides are those that are just, I wanna say like bare bones, like they’re with us. It’s like the foundation.

And then we’ve got every, I mean everything else, [00:13:00] everything else is on the right team. We have human earth, three dimensional spirit guides that help us with the 3D Earth plane. You know, that’s, I call ’em like our earth guides. And I didn’t know this when I first started out with energy work. Same. And all of a sudden I’m like, oh, there’s, depending on the human or human, I always talk about human.

So I personally, some of my clients, they all have human guides and galactic guides. Yeah. Yeah. And I, that’s when I. Oh, there is kind of like a tier system depending on the person I’m working on and their soul’s purpose here. Yep. Human. And then there’s a galactic piece that started coming in and I was like, oh cool.

Very cool. Yeah, I live on the galactic Well. Yeah. I don’t, I don’t know if I, how much, how far I wanna get into this, but there have been times where I’m holding space for the galactic, and I, I’m kind of sitting there and I’m like, thanks for letting me be here. . Like, it’s so amazing and it’s so cool the energy that they’re bringing in for the client.

I’m [00:14:00] like, I get a bear witness to this. This is amazing. So you made the point about people being in fear with mm-hmm. , these energies. The other thing that I will see, and this is more online, but I see people kind of with this, you know, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, you know, um, I’m an alien, I’m cool, I’m, you know, like, you know what I’m talking about.

Or like, I’m better than I’m here to save people on earth or show them the way. And, and you know what, what that makes me reflect on is how. I look at Harry Potter. So I was writing something out and I went to the guide, said Billion, there’s a billion people who have watched or read here at the Harry Potter series.

And I was like, really? So I Googled it and over 500 million books have been sold. Now that means books have been shared, movies have been watched, who didn’t read the books, et cetera, and I was like, over a billion people on our planet have [00:15:00] watched or perceived Harry Potter. Why is it so popular? To me, what makes sense is it’s popular because people know they are energetic, they know that they have magic.

I consider magic the activation of energy in general, very generally speaking. Mm-hmm. Magic has many definitions. So I’m like, people know that their energy is unique and has something that they’re more, we’re more than just human, we’re more than just pen paper driving my car around, riding my bike around.

So I understand why these people have a, a need to feel special cuz we are special. Everyone’s special, which makes nobody special. the irony. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So yeah, I definitely think that there is something to the, so getting back into what you were talking about with the galactic and the [00:16:00] aliens, what have you, how would you describe an alien, like as a subset, as a different race?

So the, just the term alien to me is, It’s a really loose, definitive term to a, a class of being or beings actually. Mm-hmm. That, you know, it’s just, to me, it’s just a very watered down term that we, or a label that we’ve applied to this huge array of beings. Interdimensional. Totally. It’s a catchall term alien.

I mean, it just kinda like, what is an alien? You know? It’s just somebody that’s other, you know? Yeah. It’s other. Exactly. Yeah. So, and I think that’s just so, and that’s, I used to say alien a lot. I used to, even early on, I’d say, oh, alien. Mm-hmm. . And then I’m realizing actually these beings are interdimensional.

They can phase in, phase out, they’re interdimensional, [00:17:00] they can slip in between dimensions very easily. Mm-hmm. . So that’s why I use, ah, they’re, you know, or you could say ultra terrestrial. I mean, there’s a lot of fancy terms out there, but. . Um, so alien to me is just a very generic or very catchall term for, um, a class of energetic beings that are not human, you know, 3D biological form

Right, right, right. I have seen, so let’s talk, let’s focus on the alien part for a bit. Mm-hmm. , and you’re, I, I agree with, I agree with what you’re saying. I mean, I too have, I thought it was like, oh, aliens, and then in doing this like line of work you see so much more. I remember when I first got started, I was doing, I used to do sessions in a dark room.

I didn’t know. I mean, it was beautiful. It was the salt mine and you know, there’s, it was beautiful and it was moody. And I remember I was seeing this individual and they were on the table and they were face [00:18:00] up at this point. And I, they, you know, their spirit guide, spirit team had me hold my hand over their third eye.

And this silver energy came down like silver, like tinsel, like swirled. And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, I want that . And I’ve never seen it since. Not that specific energy. Um, actually what was interesting about this person’s journey is that they were actually moving from an interdimensional being that was not good into the light.

Ooh. And this was part of their path. And I, to me that was absolutely fascinating. So the other thing that I’ve noticed is people say that they think. or, or we don’t because we don’t have the terminology yet. They say alien or I think I’m alien and it’s actually galactic. So how would you define Galactic versus, I know we’ve kind of touched on the alien piece.

Mm-hmm. , but what would you call the [00:19:00] galactic piece? What have you found? So, in my understanding at least, what, how I use the term is think about galaxies. You know, we look out into our solar system and there’s, oh gosh, every star is a solar system. If you are, it’s a galaxy. So galactic, or within this dimension, this is where it gets a little mind blowing.

Cause I, what we see with our physical eyes, which is always, you know, we’re talking about the speed of light. Yeah. Everything we see out in space is already. million light years passed. Yeah. But it’s in our known universe. So galactic is gonna be something within the structure of our universe. Within that, the dimension, this dimension, everything we see is third dimension.

Mm-hmm. . And so galactic could be within these solar system. That’s how I use Galactic. It’s, it’s outside of our solar system, if you will. Yeah. You know, that’s how I see it too, in [00:20:00] our imposs, possibly Milky Way, but I just kind of use that as another term, galactic, cuz it kind of puts them into an energetic spectrum.

Mm. That is outside of, again, outside of our third dimension. Right. I mean, earth is comprised of many dimensions. Mm-hmm. , but for simplicity’s sake, you know, I’m just saying it’s galactic as the name implies. Galaxy Galactic. It’s of something out here in our Galaxy system. Um, and it, it’s good. Like there’s, I, you know, I always say there’s good and bad energy in everything.

And whenever Galactic have presented themselves for a client, for example, it always felt really, really good. That was the key. Mm-hmm. , I think the client, for me, the client has always been kind of shy at first to talk about something like this, but it, you know, I’m like, how does it feel? And then I can feel so [00:21:00] good or it, you know, it does feel like home and it does feel like they’re of the light and.

The galactic is just what they’ve given me. The Spirit team. Mm-hmm. , and they’re just doing that to be, to . Make use of human time. You know, do you have a, you have an hour with the client. They’re like, don’t focus on us, we wanna help you . And also keep in mind, we’re trying to apply linear language here. We are taking totally vibrations and reducing it down into linear language.

And that’s really hard when we’re dealing with multidimensional frequencies that’s, we’re having to disseminate really water it down into language that Oh, okay. Galactic, that works. , yeah. Oh my gosh. I even said that. Another one is celestial. I’ve also used that. That doesn’t feel as true, but Galactic works.

Oh yeah. That’s interesting you say celestial, because that has a different tone, a different resonance. Mm-hmm. to me. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. and I have had. Celestial beings, a group of them present themselves [00:22:00] to me, and I had a very bad feeling about it, but they tried to present themselves as a light. And I said, if you are, then you’ll still be here in a certain amount of time.

And sure enough, they weren’t. So, but yeah, there’s that and, and there’s that. Yeah, there’s that. But I do see how people, again, that’s, you know, Harry Potter, I don’t wanna call it a syndrome, but I think, I think these different types of beings, some prey on people because they know, Hey, you know what? I know I got something in me and you’re here telling me I do.

And I think it’s cool. I’m actually communicating with you or whatever you’ve chosen me. You know? And I think people feel, it makes ’em feel good, you know, temporarily at least. So, yeah. There’s a deep human desire to feel unique and special, so for sure. And you can see it in the language that shows up in pop culture around, you know, just modern language.

Yeah. You know, like hybrid [00:23:00] star seed. Um, what’s another one I’m seeing? Starcy comes up a lot, um, too. Um, hybrid. Yeah, that’s, that’s an interesting one. It has a little weird different connotation to it. You know, what’s a hybrid? Mm-hmm. , um, Um, I’m just trying to think of how people come to me with their terminology.

Yeah, those are the two main ones. What have you heard? Yeah, I would say I hear those a lot. I hear star seat, I hear light worker. You know what my spirit team has guided me too, is . It’s like, what are you experiencing now? Who are you? Right. You know, what are you being Yes now? And I’m like, well, right now I’m a human and I’m choosing to work with the light.

Right. And they just keep it really, really simple. Now, that’s not to say that because I do have some clients who are, [00:24:00] you could say proactively and reactively working with their galactic teams. Mm-hmm. , and that’s different. But I feel like, and it’s funny because the whole reason I started this podcast, and I’m written this book, is because I wanna help give some verbiage to energy, you know, help people understand the universal laws of energy so that they can safely explore it.

So why don’t we jump into when it doesn’t feel good, when the energies of the ets, the extraterrestrials, the, the guides just said, ultrasensitive ultras, sensitives would probably be us . So when it doesn’t feel good for us, um, can you give us a couple of examples of experiences like maybe you’ve had or, you know, people have had, and let’s kind of give people a framework of what that might look like.

So yeah, it’s where I have experienced the negative influence, not me personally, but for [00:25:00] cl uh, a couple of clients that have had dealings with these. I would say individuals, . Yeah, sure. Is one thing I wanna highlight. Typically, if there is interactions happening at this time, you can go back and see and be validated that it’s been since their childhood, this is typically ongoing throughout their lifetime.

That’s so important. So, and that’s, it doesn’t just start now, it’s the, the galactic, or whoever I’m working with, they’ll give me vignettes of, oh, we contacted you when you were three years old. Do you remember this? And they’ll give me the, you know, how they were presented with an, you know, an introduction or an event that happened.

And then the, my client will go, oh, that was real. You know, that they’ll just sit there and their eyes get as big as saucers. Right. A lot of times they just, You know, they just kind of pushed it off. No, we’ve been taught [00:26:00] not to trust our imagination. So that’s an example of like that’s the good also, right?

That’s the good when they realize, oh, that was real. So that you’re being introduced. Well, the negative, there are negative experiences out there that don’t go very well for the clients. Yeah. And so, and it, and I guess I’ll just start talking about what has happened for them. There are interactions that could be called abductions.

Yeah. You know, that happen. Yeah. It can happen in their sleep. It can also happen while they are consciously awake. Yeah. And not as common. What were you gonna say? Oh, no, that’s so, that’s so good. I mean, I wanna dissect all three of those. When you said consciously awake and how that’s not as common. That gets back to our point around the fact that at least my generation, I think your generation, we are almost in same generation, but we just weren’t taught as much to trust our imagination.

[00:27:00] Right. And so these things do happen in the liminal space. My experiences mm-hmm. both times have been in the liminal space. It ha It was like while I was sleeping and it woke me up. . Um, and then I also have clients who have had positive abductions. Like, I wouldn’t call it an abduction, but it’s like, yeah, that is interesting, right?

Yeah. Going back to they literally go back to a ship and get support and a download and multiple people, so, yeah. Okay. Okay. So, and I, and I, you know, we’re sharing this, we’re obviously not giving any details. Um, I have had many, many clients, Kathy has too, so I just, I’m respectful of people’s, you know, personal stories.

This is, because again, I know there’s more of you out there who have had experiences like this, and you’re normal, , you’re normal. And also, right. There’s some people like myself who are not gonna be, I don’t think, I mean, who haven’t had these types of experiences, but can also offer support. Okay. Keep going.[00:28:00]

Yeah, no, I was just gonna say, typically what, you know, you. , I’m gonna say the good and the less good. Mm-hmm. , you know that it’s usually a lifelong, you know, I would call lifelong is a lifer. Nice. They’ve been experiencing this since childhood. Yeah. And it might even be ancestral within their family structure too.

Their parents, grandparents. Beautiful. They might have skipped a generation, but, so that’s an also a consideration. But I have a lot of clients who, this never comes up. It’s not a part of their experience here on the earth plane. They’re definitely having just human interactions and then their guides basically, and ancestors.

But there is a large sector of society that has this other experience. And for the negative experiences, the ones that I, there is, there are some themes, and this is what I find really interesting when I have clients who’ve had interactions with these beings. Their [00:29:00] childhoods have been pretty tumultuous, that it could be comprised of child abuse, you know, physical abuse, psychological abuse.

And so that’s just a thing. I don’t know if that is a requirement, but it just seems that these poor little children that grow up in households where there’s domestic violence mm-hmm. , um, that’s just a theme. I always look for patterns in my clients and that’s how I make reference points. And I just, it’s my own mental database.

I’m like, oh, there’s a similarity again. Yep. Um, the negative influences that happen here is a lot of times these young, when they’re young, are very disempowered. They, they have no empowerment. It’s been taken away from them by the abuse in the home. Mm-hmm. , and then possibly these negative ets, if you will.

Mm-hmm. . Kind of access these children and, and they abduct them. I can only speak [00:30:00] from the clients I have worked on that have had experiences. Right. And they haven’t gone very well. And it’s not just one species that’s interacting with them, it’s several. Right. So, so there’s several that maybe don’t have their highest good.

There’s, there’s an indifference. I say humans have a moral emotional code. You know, we label things good and bad constantly. It’s part of our dwell of the down here. Yep. Good and bad. Some of these races don’t have that depth of awareness. There’s not a clue. Um, let’s say a duality. There’s not good and bad.

It just is. There’s an indifference. They don’t have an emotional spectrum like we do. Yeah. That’s not all of these beings. But there are definitely a group that don’t have the emotional depth that we do. They don’t feel, we feel they don’t. So that can lead to us thinking that they’re negative because they don’t feel, they don’t have [00:31:00] compassion.

Like, you know, oh, that hurts. They don’t understand what hurt or pain is, cuz they don’t feel, yeah. It’s an interesting dynamic. So my clients, when they’ve had negative experiences, I always, as you teach so well, Emily, come back to your power, stay in your power, connect to your light work from that light center.

Mm-hmm. and. Rebuilds your power and how to interact with these beings if it’s ongoing still and set clear boundaries. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just the same as all energetic interactions we have across the veil. I mean, it could be ghosts, it can be critters. Yeah. . And then there’s this other grouping, you know, it’s just really how we hold our power.

Mm-hmm. , you know, it’s, and it just, yeah. So that’s, hopefully that answers, you know, the negative. There’s definitely some negative groups out there. Yeah. And then some beautiful, loving, supportive [00:32:00] beings that have just this incredible presence. Yeah. And helping us grow with our consciousness. The evolution of humankind, you know.

Everything that we’d hoped they’d be, you know, from a human perspective. Aw, I love that . Yeah. It’s, it’s a big spectrum there, . Yeah, it is. So you had touched on the fact that there’s a group of them, a group of them, a race. You call it a race of them that doesn’t necessarily feel the way we feel. And I’m right doing my best to explain what it is we’re talking about here.

There was a time I was, um, staying at someone’s house and I was woken up in the middle of the night because I had had a dream that it was literally a, uh, u f o with two green martians in it. I’m not kidding you. And they had literally sent a beam down and they’re like, [00:33:00] we would like to take you. And I said, no.

And they said, we would like you to come with us. And I said, absolutely not. Or whatever the interaction was. And it didn’t feel good. It didn’t feel right. It felt, um, cold. It felt uncomfortable. And, and then I jerked awake and I was laying on my back and I even said to them, I said, and don’t take my cat.

And when I woke up, she was laying on my chest vertically down me. And she was doing this low per, which was very unlike her to lay on me in that exact way. That’s not how she typically lays on me, if she does. So it was, it was very interesting. And I didn’t feel good afterwards. Right. So, but again, and, and they respected my boundaries cause I kept saying no.

And I’m glad that they did. I’m sure they don’t always do that, other versions of them anyway, so. Yeah. Fascinating. Wild. It was wild. You know, it [00:34:00] is an interesting. Pattern that does emerge. And a lot of times it does happen when we are asleep or unconscious, you know, it’s, um, whether that’s a protective mechanism, that that’s when they or they deliberately shut down our consciousness, which is a thing too.

Or they take us and just we blip and there’s loss of time. I’m sitting here thinking of a let’s talk. Yeah. I was just thinking, I can feel that my, my guys are saying, let’s talk about time . Let’s talk about time. Let’s, let’s talk about that. Yeah. So what, what’s your experience been around that? So, you know, time is only relative down here on the earth plane.

That’s how we measure. That’s time. It’s linear. Yeah. But these beings have, you know, they’re outside of time. So you’ll find reports where there’s time loss. Mm-hmm. loss of time. And, and this is where it, to me, this is where my [00:35:00] mind. Literally just kind of gets blown because, you know, we are living in a very linear reality here where time flows in a very predictable way.

And then when we start hearing about these things, well, you know, there’s time. I’ve lost three hours, you know, I’m driving down a freeway, and all of a sudden, you know, you’re three, you, you’re further down the highway and you don’t remember going further down the highway and you’ve lost three hours.

Mm-hmm. And that’s some people blip out for, they’re like, okay, I don’t remember the drive for the last minute and a half, but. That’s just daydreaming. , . It’s just like daydreaming. I just wanted to make sure people understood that . Right. That’s where our mind is not present. We’re thinking about grocery lists or we’re just right.

There is definitely where we just kind of wander off. So this is clearly driving down the freeway and all of a sudden, and if they go under hypnosis, [00:36:00] they will see that there was either a flash or under hypnosis. They’ll see that something did interrupt their drive down the freeway and the next thing you know, they’re somewhere else but returned three hours later in a different part of the freeway.

You know, it’s crazy. There is a, an account of, it makes me so mad. Betty and Barney Hill. Hill. Mm-hmm. , there was an abduction case and they lost several hours. They came back. This is like from the forties, I believe. I’m not good on history dates, showing my weakness. Did people know that they had, I guess, vanished temporarily?

So were people wondering where they were? Um, they were driving back in the middle of the night. Um, this is like in the Ohio Valley. Gosh, if I would’ve known, we were talking about the hills. I would have gotten dates sometimes, but they were driving back at night. They had, [00:37:00] um, so there was not, they were just driving a freeway.

This is in the fifties, I believe, and they saw light up to the right, I believe, you know, a light. And they pull over and they look. And so it was clearly a, yeah, a light that was coming down a ship. Right? So that’s a physical manifestation. Spaceship, we’ll call it a spaceship, you know? Yeah. For practical terms.

And they, but they had to act, they had to be hypno, you know, regressed through, you know, hypnosis to actually access their experience and have it documented. And it was documented by the c i a, I believe they were put under regression by the government. I have, I, this is giving me chills everywhere. So yeah, there’s a lot of good history around abduction cases, and it’s probably one of the most famous, besides Travis Walton, who was abducted some Lum, um, [00:38:00] lumberjacks.

Mm-hmm. . And he was abducted. And that was a well-documented case and a movie made called Fire in the Sky about his experience. And that was real, that was real for him. So physical abduction, And there were witnesses for his abduction, but the hills, there was no witnesses, but when they were brought, brought back and plopped back down in their car, things were just not right.

You know, there was a lot of trauma. And so those would be the, of course we could interpret that as negative experiences, but again, this is through our human lens and our belief systems and mm-hmm. , there is a notion that there’s, you know, that we’re a grand experiment, if you will. Yeah. You know, and this is, we are no different with the other smaller animal kingdom.

Like when we do tests on lab rats and you know, [00:39:00] our scientists, you know, if you look at in that term mm-hmm. a definition of lab rats. Yeah. You know, we could be somebody else’s lab rats, you know, and this is a rabbit hole, Emily. Wouldn’t that just be the juice? We cross over and it’s like, oh my gosh, you didn’t know this.

Oh my God. But y’all were a bunch of . So what this also brings up, everything comes from source energy though. Everything, all these races, all these galactic, celestials, ets, everything comes from source. It’s, it’s created, it’s source energy. It comes from source. So we just, you know, we get so self-centric as humans thinking the world revolves around us, but the universe is vast and there are many dimensions and there’s a lot of interplay.

I asked the guides, what did I ask them the other day? If there. more than just our universe. [00:40:00] Like are there multiple? And they’re like, aha, not today. going there today, Emily . I was like, yeah, I don’t really, I wouldn’t say, it’s not that I don’t care, but you know, we got other stuff we’re working on. But it is interesting you, it’s just, you know, it’s just consciousness really.

It’s just where we expand our mind and our awareness. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. It’s vast. It’s a vast ocean. . It is a vast ocean. So what would you say are some of the symptoms someone should look for if they think, maybe I’m gonna use this term, maybe they’re being messed with. So what are some of the symptoms that they’re, that they might need to look for in themselves?

Okay, so this would be again, you know, nearing on more the negative side. . Right. Because, you know, this is where we usually get the call or the booking with the client that something’s not right. You know, when things are peachy keen, we don’t typically get these types of sessions with clients, so. [00:41:00] Right, right.

Well, um, unless they just want clarification, you know, sometimes I can, sometimes, yeah. Sometimes they wanna talk about this stuff with someone and who’s like, not gonna think they’re crazy and can hold space and help them. Yeah. So yeah, I’ve made that very clear to my clients. There’s no topic off limits in these walls.

Same. Same. It’s all good. Yeah. Yeah. It’s fun. Um, it’s a safe place. Yeah. Um, so the one thing I’ve noticed with the negative interactions is their energy doesn’t feel right. Um, and it’s usually there’s a, there is a, a telltale sign when. The energy with, I’d say the more negative influences. It has a metallic feel to it.

It’s very metallic. Oh my gosh. Yes. Okay. Oh, glad that makes sense to you. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. And you know what, I should, I’m, I keep going and also I wanna help people understand what they should look for in themselves. But [00:42:00] I’m kinda wondering if people sometimes don’t ha get a metallic taste in their mouth.

They could. Yeah. It’s an smell. Yes. There. It’s interesting how. You know, I always say rule out everything physical. Make sure you, you know, go in for a physical, make sure everything’s working, you know, all your blood works is good because sometimes there are things that occur in our bodies that can elicit metallic tastes, you know, complex.

Yeah. Okay. So you rule out everything and you’re coming in, but usually I, it’s the energy, your energy is off, it’s not flowing. There’s just something feels off. Um, plague by nightmares and, um, I always say trust your intuition. Yeah. Um, I’m just going back through my database of clients that Sure. Once something didn’t feel right, so usually I get in one particular case there is.[00:43:00]

She’s very self-aware and her energy and she always knows something doesn’t feel right. She does have continuing interactions, so, and she knows the trademark of when she’s gonna be messed with . It’s just, it’s just like textbook. She just knows she’s had it since childhood. She just knows. Yeah. But it’s a very metallic, energetic field.

And when I work on her, I can feel when there’s been interactions, cuz there’s like a, an echo of metallic energy. Mm-hmm. . Um, and it’s very different because you, you can actually sense that there is, for me, I just see, oh, there’s interference. I just know, oh, there’s a, it’s a metallic energy pattern. And for her, her energy just doesn’t flow right.

When there’s direct interaction, our chakra system goes very linear. You know, we have our chakras align with our spine. They don’t fully [00:44:00] understand how the human organism or the bar biologic form works our energy system or complex. We’ve got meridians, we’ve got channels, all of this energetic, we’re complex.

Mm-hmm. and I always notice that things get messed up. Yeah. You know, when they start coming into the energy field, cuz their energetic structure is so different than ours. We’re. So, that’s what’s so beautiful about humans is that we are, we are a beautiful being. We’re complex. Just the organism. It’s so beautifully created.

Right. Complex, but they do mess, kinda mess up the energy flow. Mm-hmm. . So I’ll have to go in and restructure the chocolate system Yeah. You know, to, to try and rebuild and get it back in line. Well, I, I, I think it’s in, please tell me if you have a different opinion or a similar opinion, like what’s your perspective on this, based on your experience.

[00:45:00] But part of the reason the chakras are out of bounds is because, well, one, the guys are pointing out a few things. Our physical bodies weren’t meant to be in things like spaceships. we’re supposed to be on the earth, which I don’t think we could ever live on Mars, Mr. Elon Musk, because we are earthlings.

Yes, yes, yes. Our energy is, you know, is very, um, I’d say it, we have a symbiotic relationship with nature. I mean, we are nature. We, we are nature. Yes. So, and our whole energetic system is aligned with. Earth’s energy field. So just Yeah. Adding onto your statement. Yeah. So yeah, we’re not meant to go off world and sustain life.

So when we get, um, the physical form, when it’s removed from this earth plane, it can cause a lot of havoc. It can cause interruption to our, our magnetic field. Mm-hmm. . Um, [00:46:00] then there’s another piece here I wanna touch on. They take our consciousness, that’s another thing. Body stays behind, but they take our energy body.

That’s exactly what I was gonna say. And that’s what messes up the chakras. Cuz the chakras hold our en well one of, one of their mini purposes spirit. Yeah. They hold it in place. Yeah. It’s, you can see how dynamic we are. We, yeah. We need that spirit inside the body to animate our body. Mm-hmm. , it’s, it’s very interesting.

Um, so. We’re talking about consciousness here, you know, dimensional, multi-dimensional. You know, we’re, we are dynamic human beings. So like through meditation you can connect to these beings as we can our guides through meditation, raising our vibration and interacting while staying in our body. Right? Um, I think some of these beings, um, don’t [00:47:00] see the value in keeping us in our bodies.

I’ve had more than one conversation saying, you cannot take her . You have to keep her in her body. . I discipline ’em. I’m like, no, this is not okay. Right, right, right. You don’t need her to be with you in order to communicate. I say, yeah, if you really wanna help her, keep her in her body, you know, you know, just here, here, here.

Mm-hmm. . That is so funny. I know. I’ve had that over and over again. Um, now I have this question. Oh, nope, nope. Go. You go. I was just gonna add that a part of the challenge with this particular case that I’m referencing is the personality of my client loves the attention of this story that has followed her through her life.

There is something that, you know, it’s, it’s trauma-based, but she’s very attached. Her ego is attached to the [00:48:00] identity of the story of alien interaction. Yeah. Abduction. And they haven’t always been nice to her. There’s several species that I’ve interacted, but she is a very attached to the story and it’s.

She’s identifying with it. So I think, yeah, when I keep saying stay in your lane set boundaries, it only goes so far because there’s a story that she’s very much attached to. Well, I mean, I can see from her perspective if this is mm-hmm. experience you’ve had since you were a kid. There’s that familiarity.

And if there’s trauma from childhood and these things are giving you attention and you feel special, then hey. Yeah. So, yeah. And she’s getting mileage, getting mileage out of the storytelling too, because it does become a conversation that comes up all the time. Yeah. So it’s, it’s getting, it’s like somebody who’s really attached to their suffering, like if they have cancer, that cancer becomes their identity.

Mm-hmm. . And so I always say, can you see your [00:49:00] life? Healed from cancer, what does your life look like? Healed. And this is the same type of dynamic. What does your life look like with no more alien interaction or ET interaction? What is your, is it gonna be nice and quiet and stable and predictable and balance?

Yeah. Yeah. Is that, how does that feel? Right? Well, it feels boring . Mm-hmm. . I was just gonna say, you need create more pleasure and play in your life then. Right. Just create a new relationship to life, you know? Yeah. But, um, it’s interesting cuz it brings up a lot of psychological patterning. Yeah. I think we underestimate the, the skits back to the Harry Potter esque.

Mm-hmm. of us all. I think there. To your point where you said how from meditation or intentional activation within your light, you can connect to galactic beings, extraterrestrials that are aligned with you, that are meant to be with you. Mm-hmm. . Absolutely. I think there’s so much to explore [00:50:00] as humans. We heavily underestimate that.

So what, because we don’t know then people jump too well. Alien, wink, wink. Nudge, nudge. And um, I had, I was in a, there’s a gal who she does, she does group, I don’t wanna say exactly what she does. She does an A version of an energy healing work and she holds great space. She holds space really, really well.

And so I like showing up for her events cause I come with my intentions and what I wanna shift. And she does her own inner work and she’s very empowering. And so I know she can hold space for me to shift. And I also know that she’s into aliens. And I was in one of her sessions and this little alien pokes, it’s literal what it, like the emoji that it looks like on Instagram pops ups head up.

And I said, no, no, thank you. I’m just a human that chooses the light. I will be a boring ass human who chooses the light till the day [00:51:00] she dies. . Like, I don’t think I’m boring by any means, but you get what I’m saying. Right. I just, um, yeah. But again, that’s, you know, for people who feel that way and then, you know, the, the folks that I’ve spoken with and work with, who they feel.

What’s the word? Like a family with the galactic beings. But again, it’s because the galactic beings are not being intrusive. They’re providing feelings of consistent safety and warmth. They’re not being intrusive. I’m gonna say that again cuz it needs to be said. They’re giving them insights, they’re giving them guidance.

Mm-hmm. . Those are all really, really good, great, amazing things. So, right. It goes back to, um, respect for our energy. It’s energetic boundaries. And so, and these beings, and it’s so unique to our humanness too. I mean, we’re spiritual beings having a human [00:52:00] experience. You know, we’ll just repeat that again and again, and depending on our soul’s purpose here and what we’re to evolve and learn through on this, you know, in this lifeline.

Galactic could come through and help support an evolution of your soul. Yeah. Not everybody’s gonna have these interactions, you know, it just, it just depends. We’re so unique, like the, you know, the hair on our head and everything is so unique, so unique. But in the event that we are interacting with Galactic, yeah.

It’s about providing insight, guidance, um, helping us to evolve to a greater version of ourselves, you know? Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. , um, really embracing our power and, and it really helps evolve humanity too. That’s the other thing. It’s like if we are, as a species trying to align more with our potentials as opposed to [00:53:00] living small and being, you know, caught up in aggression and war and poverty and greed, you know, all these dynamics that are actually playing out on the third.

dimensional plane here. These galactic, you know, the ones that are very benevolent, they do, they bring in so many good, beautiful insights and, and they change our, they help us to change and evolve our vibration. Yeah. Yeah. And eventually, one of these days we are all gonna evolve and be those helpers for other people on the other side or some version of it.

Mm-hmm. , I mean, I’m, I know you’ve seen a lot, but it’s incredible to me. Someone who has a loved one who’s crossed over, connects with them in one of our sessions, and then they’re in special projects. And my mind is just blown. And I’m like, there’s been multiple times where loved ones, it’s interesting, loved ones have crossed over at what you and I [00:54:00] and the world would consider an inopportune time in their life.

Yet they go on to these really special projects because as humans, we very understandably feel so much grief with things when they erupt that way. But it’s, it’s makes me wonder sometimes, you know, when they go and work on these things that are just truly magical. Um, was there a greater purpose for it?

And I don’t have an answer for that, but these are the things that I contemplate when I see things like that. So yeah, from the human, when we’re left behind, you know, and we lose a, a loved one. Yeah. Um, It’s really hard to process on the human level. We, we take it so personal, like, how could you leave me

Yeah, of course. Um, but as long as we can kinda zoom out, take our head up out of the suffering and the grief process, still grieve, but come up for air and try and repa, [00:55:00] um, we might not be able to know the bigger picture. You know, sometimes we have that veil, that’s the veil. We can’t see the greater picture here, but that’s part of us, um, having faith and trusting our faith.

That’s faith in ourselves to carry on and mm-hmm. and, um, hindsight is always a beautiful 2020. You know, we can’t see the gift that’s being offered in our, in the moment. Yeah. But down the road you’re like, oh, it all makes sense now. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That is true. Let’s talk about the veil a little bit more.

So what is, how would you describe the veil? What’s the veil to you? What you just mentioned, you already touched on it, but Yeah. That’s the big elusive word. To me, the veil is the body. Hmm. Because as soon as we shed the physical body, like in death or transition, [00:56:00] we are across the veil, you know, the veil.

Yeah. Um, this is very much a gravitational pull. The body is, to me, gravity. This just sounds, I’m just always trying to analyze how can I describe, you know, gravity. Well, emotions keep us grounded here. Yeah. You know, that’s, that’s the, to me, that’s gravity. You know, it’s, um, it’s a, and also emotions can connect us to loved ones too.

So. It is the gravitational pull, if you will love, if we’re trying to connect to a love one across the veil, all we do is connect through our heart, you know, love. And that that person bring ’em to our thoughts. We’re connected. It’s the gravitational magnetic pull that aligns us. And that’s just, that’s the world.

I think the universe at large is a magnetic universe, and I, it could apply to everything. Everything we put our thoughts [00:57:00] to this is the power of thought and our mind is when we focus on something repetitively, it acts and it pulls it towards us. Mm-hmm. the magnetic pull. Mm-hmm. . So the veil is, it’s like the, the filter that just separates our perception, you know, as far as the perception, because it, our mind, it’s all.

What we perceive, if we perceive that we’re separate from our loved ones in across the veil or our guides, other dimensions, it’s a perception that we are separate. It’s a filter. So if we, through meditation, um, and I have a practice that I, you know, when I wanna thin the veil per se, I go into a deep meditation and I just expand my consciousness outward.

Mm-hmm. stay in my body, but I expand my consciousness and the veil drops. And then now I’m perceiving [00:58:00] dimensions where I put my focus, ancestors, guides, extraterrestrials, . Mm-hmm. , galactic, you know, remote viewing. You know, that’s how you remote view. If you wanna travel, you just drop the veil through meditation.

And then you fine tune your focus. Where are you gonna put your atten attention? Yeah, yeah. Attention with intention. Thanks for explaining that so beautifully. It’s a little abstract, but Yeah. Well, energy’s abstract. And when Kathy talks about dropping into meditation, my version of that would be dropping into your light.

So, yeah, exactly. That’s a centering, dropping in. Exactly. It’s all, it’s all the same really. It’s not out here. It’s not out here. It’s right here. You know, that’s another funny thing is, How our spirit guides are within our energy field, . And it’s like, where’s everybody fitting? , how [00:59:00] are you doing this? Why are you not all, you know, in a backpack behind me.

Crowded. Yeah. . Yeah. Oh. I mean, I know that they will show up in different ways, especially in sessions. They’ll show up like to the side in the front and the back and all that stuff. Yeah. Cause it helps us create a landscape. Exactly. It’s a, it’s a, it’s a landscape. And what is interesting, I have a, a friend who’s a shaman mm-hmm.

And she was telling me in a workshop once that shamans, when they journey, they journey through the left ventricle of their heart. That’s how they go in. Mm-hmm. . And they access the universe that way. So it is an inward journey. So you go in and sure enough, the universe just opens up. Ooh, yeah. You’re not going out, you’re, you’re going within.

And then the universe opens up. Yeah. Yeah. And you can go anywhere you want your journey. Yeah. Yep. And that’s why I so [01:00:00] connect to the light first, cuz when you connect to the light first, your journeying will be safe and you’ll stay grounded. I thought of one of the comments, uh, you and I had spoken at the same time.

This was back when we were talking about how ETS will take people out of their bodies. Mm-hmm. . And I was, I asked the guides, I said, okay, so do some of you stay behind and guard the body? And they said, oh yes. And then do some of you go with them? And they said, those who are allowed. So like go with the soul through that journey.

So, because again, I’m thinking, well all guides come, well, I guess I should say spirit team. I won’t say spirit guides, spirit team. Um, Yeah. It’s like who’s looking out for who and who, you know, how are they protecting individuals who are taking this path? So yeah, I’d say[01:01:00]

if you, I’m checking it. I’m checking. Yeah, I know you are. I know you are. Take your time. I pause on this podcast a lot as I’m digesting information from them. Yeah, it’s a, this is a lot of, I mean, this is a topic that there’s gonna be such a wide variety of experiences. Oh, totally. And yeah, I think there’s definitely those who will stay behind and, and, and say, keep an eye on things.

You know, there’s definitely, I call ’em like, A, you know, they’re helpers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Their a the support. Yeah. But you know, again, to to what end, what to what end are they, you know, taking the, you know, a client’s consciousness or in some cases their physical body. And you know what’s interesting, I just wanna slip this in there.

Mm-hmm.

it seemed like there was a period in our history where that was a very common thing, [01:02:00] that they would actually take the physical bodies, but they aren’t taking the physical bodies as much. Now. Gives me chills. It is, it’s kind of interesting. And I, and I haven’t quite figure that out. I mean, cause I have a human curiosity, like, well, why is that?

Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think maybe we’re just not hearing about it as much because I think as we’ve gone down through the decades, this topic is, as much as we want it to be open and talked about freely, I think there’s still a level of suppression, of skepticism that really squashes people’s experiences. And um, so we’re, you know, maybe we’re not hearing about it as much.

Um, I can only speak to the clients I worked on, but it seems like when they were younger, they were definitely physically taken , and they haven’t had that, at least to their [01:03:00] understanding, it’s their consciousness that slips, their body stays behind. And it is like an out-of-body experience, be quite honest.

You know, we have out-of-body experience, so that’s astral projection, that’s kind of our own spirit leaving the body. But in this case, there’s another influence that’s. Taking, right. Is that because the food, because you and I are in America, so mm-hmm. , um, and I mean I’m, my sessions are virtual, so, but who we’re talking about have actually been American clients.

Our food is such garbage here and so processed. Maybe they can’t even get ’em through the stratosphere. I’m totally being cheeky. I’m being cheeky. . Do you know what I mean? , it’s like you can’t take your human flesh. That’s right. You’re just junk food. gives you guys, oh my god. Truth in that. Who knows? I was, I was just kidding.

Being cheeky. But that is, [01:04:00] American diets are pretty emphatic compared to. other countries, but I, some days I’ve, I had to have kind of worked on that. Well, this is a sidetrack from the topic conversation, but you know, some days it feels like, oh my gosh, what, is there anything out there that’s gonna be good for me to eat?

Right. You feel like you’re dodging bullets kind of when you’re Yeah. It’s a little, it gets a little scary at times. Yeah. Especially, we just do the best we can and, and just run energy through it as best, you know, like you can charge it with energy. Yeah. Bring some life in. Amen. Amen. Yeah. You know, sometimes I’ll clear meat and I’ll get the sensation from not just one animal, but multiple, because they’ve combined the meat.

Uh oh. Right. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. So back to ets. I feel like we have barely scratched the surface. Yeah. And , we, if there, is there anything else that you wanted to, the one things that keeps popping into my mind, [01:05:00] Is I did a house clearing one time, and you had mentioned, and this is something that I talk about with clients too, but you had mentioned, okay, so you see like repeating patterns with people.

Mm-hmm. repeating tells, and that’s one of the many ways you train yourself, get trained on how, okay, so this is a commonality and this now means X, y, Z. So when I do house clearings and it feels like every house clearing is different, but I was seeing this, for me, neon green energy filtered throughout this house.

And I was like, what the heck is that? What the heck is that? And as I’m holding space for it, it’s clearing. So I was like, okay, so obviously this was not of the light, which I didn’t, I don’t even know if I doubted that for a second. And all of a sudden I realized it was extraterrestrial. Yeah. And this was not the client’s path.

Okay. So, um, right. [01:06:00] That’s just why it was meant to be cleared. And that’s exactly what we’re talking about. Again, it goes back to this, it’s just we’re clearing a house and, and it’s training the house to hold an in integrity or a structure of energy that says it’s a home. So closing portals. Doorways. Yeah.

Um, and the, the one house I cleared had a, um, kind of like a portal or a doorway. Let’s try it. Elevator shaft, energetic. It’s only way I can describe it. Yeah. And so they had visitations when they were both boys, when they were young. They wrote, they grew up in this home that I was clearing. They’re adult men now.

Mm-hmm. can remember being visited, um, by tall whites. They call ’em tall whites. Mm-hmm. . And, but they would kind of, They’d go to bed that they would energetically, one would go down a tunnel and journey [01:07:00] and just go off. Mm-hmm. and the other one, a door would open in the wall and he’d walk through in his mind’s eye

He’d walk through and go off and journey with these tall whites. So it was interesting how in this upstairs part of this home there were these doorways. And so when I cleared the house is because the house was already marked for in extraterrestrial visitation. Yeah. And a negative one slipped in a reptilian and was causing problems.

It was not a tall white. So I had to really work hard to clear close that door shove. Cuz Reptilians, as the name implies, is they’re pretty aggressive. You know, they don’t have a lot of feeling . Mm-hmm. . But it was, that was just, like you said, there’s the house just. Yes. Again, we have to just clear the house and retrain the house, close the doorways, close the portals, set clear boundaries, and instruct the [01:08:00] residents what clear boundaries mean.

People. You have to hold boundaries. people don’t realize they have a choice. They do. They’re, they’re living in the house. So it goes back to boundaries. You, you’re, you have to have good energetic boundaries for yourself. Mm-hmm. . And then the house that you live in is just an extension of you. So you have to have clear boundaries there too.

Totally. Energetically, so, right. Yeah. I think we’re gonna learn that we’re gonna be communing with our homes and our spaces. I mean, now this is not anything new, right? You look at other cultures. They’ve been doing this long before our time, but I think we’re gonna start to finally really commune with our homes more and how, yeah.

Support each other in the land run. I’m excited for it. That’s right. It is. We’re moving into a new, um, vibration as well. I’ll just kind of zoom out a little bit. Our, our galactic center, we’re [01:09:00] moving into a different vibrational field in our solar system. I mean, every planet’s going through this shift.

Mm-hmm. . And so we are changing, um, in a galactic way, vibrationally. So, you know, everything’s shifting. And so Yeah, you’re right. Our homes, it’s, we are moving. It’s interesting. You start looking at these parallels, you know? Yeah. 30, 40 years ago everything was so nuts and bolts. Brick and mortar. And now we’re getting, 40 years ago was the eighties.

I just learned like in another, wait, did I get that right? 40 years ago was the eighties. Yeah. Um, yeah. And everything was so tangible, physical. Brick and mortar, and then you go back like the, to the fifties and sixties. Yeah. It’s still brick and mortar. Everybody had very, you know, businesses, computers weren’t even invented yet, or at least not the kind that we’re using.

Mm-hmm. . Um, we have moved into a virtual world now. Everything’s very computerized. AI is [01:10:00] coming onto the front and we’re talking about extraterrestrials. Yeah. This is a topic. There is artificial intelligence out there, and that’s why, and there’s transhumanism out there. There’s, there are some really interesting dynamics unfolding in our reality.

So as we move into a virtual re world and working remotely, This is why I say work on your lights. Stay centered, stay embodied, have a clear sense of who you are in your body. Because when we start getting into these virtual realities, we are starting to put our consciousness somewhere else and it’s not in our bodies.

And so it kind of opens us up to a whole host of problems, um, and ai. Oh, go. And they’ve been, they’ve been dripping it to us, like the technology’s been there long before they roll it out to us. Mm-hmm. . So [01:11:00] that’s why sometimes like social media does really amazing things, right? Like today, I just found this gal on social media who, oh my gosh, I’m so excited about her page.

Never seen her before, but she’s got these amazing paleo healthy recipes. So I’m so grateful for social media in so many ways. Yet there’s a reason we don’t feel great when we get off social media. And it’s all, that’s just one of the many things that’s happening. It’s interesting to me that our physical world is headed in, I wouldn’t say headed.

We’re on this path. All of these artificial. Technologies and are entering our biosphere. And at the same time, more and more people are reclaiming their power, reclaiming their sense of health, reclaiming their essence of them. So to me it’s gonna be so interesting to see how it all shakes out, whether I’m here or on the other side of the veil.

I just want, the veil is so beautiful, Kathy, I just call it the other side, . I know. I’ll go, I’ll gladly do their side. . [01:12:00] So anyway, yeah, it’s gonna be really interesting to see. But you know, if you’re listening to this, you’re someone who’s on this journey that’s really, you are not just claiming your light, but you’re bringing more light into this world.

Right. Exactly. And that’s where our power is. It’s right here in the center. , you know, this topic that we’re talking about today is so timely because we are going through some major shifts in our collective as far as how we relate to each other, um, how we conduct business. Mm-hmm. entertainment. Um, and it does speak to just this bigger cosmic shift that we’re going through on a, on a galactic scale.

Mm-hmm. . Um, but it’s more important now than ever to stay in our body, in our power and centered and. Yeah. Stay. Stay home . Yeah. And And you can interact with these beings by staying home too. You don’t have to go out into your [01:13:00] body. Exactly. Exactly. And ask your spirit team to help filter it for you or ask them to bring you an example of what would be good for you.

And who knows. It may not even be something galactic, it may be something you don’t even know, . It could be really, but we’re still constantly learning. There’s, gosh, there’s, it’s like our oceans, we have no idea. And we’ve only explored just a small percentage of our oceans and what’s really down there. And that’s our consciousness.

I always think our consciousness is very similar to the oceans. We can’t see everything. We don’t know everything. Right, right. We’re always. always learning. So what would you recommend to someone who wants to practice being more in their own personal light, in their own personal body, in their own personal space and grow that, like what would be, what would you recommend to somebody starting out?

So, you know, I always, you know, there’s, I [01:14:00] think when we’re first starting out on this journey, I think it’s like self-awareness and it just becoming self-aware, knowing that our actions do have an impact on the world around us. It’s not always us being focused on the outer world and letting knit inform us.

It’s about staying centered and, and this is about just like, like you said, reclaiming our power, the outer rule. There’s no shortage of how the world will try and tell us who we are or take our power away. Um, it’s always judging. It wants to keep us feeling small and by, I say small by disempowered. So coming back to ourself is just starting off with just checking in with ourselves.

At the end of the day, how do we feel? Am I tired? Self-care, self nurturance, and, and taking a look at our, you know, as we sit, it might feel unusual to sit here and just, well, [01:15:00] how do I feel? But it’s getting in touch with also, I call it like the subconscious mind as well. The subconscious one is the one that is holds the, the knee jerk reactions that we have to the world around us.

It’s like, you know, it’s like if we react. To say some words that somebody spoke to us, that is a subconscious reaction. It’s not a conscious reaction, it’s just an a reaction and it’s triggering something within the subconscious. Mm-hmm. . So it’s like, I always say, why am I reacting? Always asking why. Why do I react this way?

What are my hidden patterns and how can I heal into a more centered, balanced, awake? There’s so many words you can just drop in there, but mm-hmm. . So I always say at the end of the day, just check in self-awareness. It is about doing the inner work. You hear that phrase a lot. Do your [01:16:00] inner work. Yeah. I, um, it’s so rewarding, but it is challenging.

Mm-hmm. to go through. I do. And it become easier doing inner work.

It’s a spiral. I’ll, I’ll give you that. It is a spiral. It’s not a linear dur. It’s not a linear, I never said it was easy path. It’s not easy. You might think easy. Oh, I thought I already addressed that. Oh, it’s coming back and it’s smacking beside the head. I mean, I think what I meant was you. Not you, I mean like us, Columbus in general.

But what happens is the ability to see for yourself what your patterns are, what your blocks are, what your needs are, what your, it’s just ping me that my battery’s running low. Oh, it is? Oh, . Anyway, um, , but sure, I had to plug in this [01:17:00] microphone order instead of in lieu of power. So, okay. But it’s the ability to hold yourself through hard times.

Now, that does not mean all hard times and all hard lessons, cuz I don’t mm-hmm. , there’s things in life that can be beyond that. Um, but I’m talking about like the repeat patterns. The repeat lessons. You move through them, you move through them in a way that is more fluid. You know, you have tools now to support you.

That’s what I mean by easier. Definitely not easy. Right. And it is true. It is learning to build your toolbox. Um, yeah. And that’s gathering wisdom. As you go through life, we gather wisdom, and that is your tool. Mm-hmm. , you know, it’s like, it’s like what is the, what did I learn about myself going through that difficulty?

Oh, there it is. I always say, look for the silver line. There’s always wisdom gained so that we grow and learn about ourselves and know how resilient we are, you know, to go through difficult times. [01:18:00] So next time we have tools to like whip out. Yeah. There’s no place like home, like doing your own inner work.

There’s no place like Home my favorite movie, . Is that your favorite movie for a child? Yeah, I, yeah, I realized. Well, as a kid I’m like, oh, who would leave Emerald City? I love Emerald City. Who wants to go home to Kansas . But, um, but then when you look at the silver, the messaging was that she had the power within her the whole time to change her world.

I love that. And, um, that was, that was the message, that was the power was within her this whole time. Oh. And she didn’t have to go travel the, you know, Emerald City and back , so. Oh my gosh, that’s interesting. So does that mean as we close this session out that the message is, you can commune with your, I don’t even know what to [01:19:00] call it.

The, I don’t even wanna call, I don’t wanna call it anything, but So you, what we’ve talked about before, but you can commune with what you need to commune with within yourself. You don’t need to go anywhere. You don’t need to be all here. Yeah, exactly. You don’t have to defer to any other, um, so, you know, we have our guides.

Yes, they are here, but they’re. , our higher self has the same wisdom. People don’t, if you’ll understand that still. Yeah. Our guides are here helping our higher self execute. Yeah. They’re standing right with our higher self to guide us. But that wisdom is all here. Yeah. It’s all within us. So if we do the meditations and work within ourself and just expand and allow for that growth, all that truth is right here.

It’s all in the center of our light. Our light protects us. Mm-hmm. from interferences. As we get stronger in our power, our light, um, we have less noise Yes. In the world, and it’s less [01:20:00] noise. I always say, listen to the signal, through the noise, and that is your, your light. That is your signal. I love that for your signal through the noise.

I love that. And that just takes practice with being with yourself, with being with your light, with being in meditation and it’s, yeah. You know, there’s a lot of good things that come from like nature and nature walks. I’m not sure that there’s any substitute for simply being with yourself in stillness.

And I’ve noticed, um, I’ve kind of been watching a couple of people, great people, they, you know, used to be monks or stayed with monks for years on end. And then they, they came back into the wild, you know, they came back to live the kind of life you and I live. And I think it’s because I do think people who are born and, and who are.

Like that is their path in life. That’s what they chose, that’s what they want. But we, we can’t all be monks. And so I think there is this desire to really fill out all of our human existence here and [01:21:00] now, right? Reach enlightenment when you cross over the veil or when you jump over to the other side. But for now, enjoy the oranges, you know, enjoy the pudding.

Enjoy the feeling of water against your skin. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. That’s why we came here, that’s why we came here. . Yeah. And you know, we are expressions of light, you know, in physical form or, you know, expressions of the divine in physical form. And, um, yeah, nature is the great balancer. And so getting used to silence the world is a noisy place.

And so a lot of times it’s hard to sit still and meditate or just sit still and quiet. Listen to your heartbeat. Yeah. You know, just listen to your bite. Check into your right. People get uncomfortable. They get restless, but you have to train the mind to go still. You know? You have to stay with it. You have to train your mind.

Master the mind. Yeah. Master the mind. I say give, I always tell people, give the mind [01:22:00] something to do. So a guided meditation or focus on your life. Perfect. Have it run energy and it builds those new neural pathways. Oh gosh, yeah. Guided meditation’s. Perfect. Yes, yes. Yeah. There’s so many. I mean, there’s so many ways.

There’s so many ways. And I do like things, you know, people thing people put things, what am I trying to say? We’re supposed to end this now. That’s why I’m like tripping on. It’s like we could just keep talking. We could just keep talking. But I know, but there is, there are different ways. I say meditation brings you to the present moment and we can’t sit in meditation and be monks all the time.

No. So things like cooking will bring you into meditation. Gardening will bring you into meditation. There’s a lot of things that can, you know, sex and pleasurable bring you into meditation. So, but there is no substitute for just. Just stillness. Yeah. It’s a state of being. But yeah, nature to me is like, just get out in nature and just go for a walk and just focus on the present moment.

Look, notice nature. Look at nature. And that’ll occupy your mind. . Exactly. It’ll give your mind something to do. . [01:23:00] Yes. Um, I think we just like have part one. This is part one of this topic today. We might have to do part two, part one of who knows how. And I, you know, and to be honest, I wasn’t even sure how to tackle this topic.

I just know Yes. Big I was, I, I knew it was coming through and yeah. I appreciate you sharing your insights and your wisdom on it, Kathy, thank you so much. Absolutely. And there’s definitely, you know, lots of resources out there depending on what people’s level of interest is. But I’d say it all goes back to, like you said, staying in your light.

We’re all having very unique experiences with Yeah. The variety of beings out there. Yeah. And um, yeah, just stay centered and just aware. Yeah, staying life and know that you have choice. So yess, why always I shared, that’s why I shared my story. For me, it was not the best situation. So I said no, but at the same time, not all people are gonna feel that way.

And that’s [01:24:00] important too, right? So you can be curious and say, all right, what is this? Who are you? You can engage and try and get some, you know, engagement just to see what’s going on, to see if you can gather some intel, mm-hmm. , find out. But you can also just say, no, I do not consent to any of this interaction.

And, and just move them along as well too. Yeah. Um. Okay, so I had, I told you this before we started the podcast, I texted a group of friends of mine to see if they had any questions about aliens. Oh, aren’t you clever? . Why don’t we, why don’t we, I’m looking at the juice and I think, yeah. How are you doing more?

I’m good. I we’re gonna, we’re just gonna go till the end. Okay. Um, so one of the questions is, why do they know about us, but we don’t know about them? And then there’s more questions. So let’s start with that. So why do they know about us, but we don’t know about them? Um, we are, it’s a [01:25:00] really good question, I have to say, but it kind of goes to our level of awareness of dimensions.

I don’t know if there’s a movie out there called Flatland. Okay. And it’s a really, it’s an animated cartoon and it’s so clear in how it describes. Dimensions. Yeah. But we can only perceive third, maybe fourth down. Clearly we can’t, it’s very hard for us to see beyond third, maybe fourth dimension. Fourth is like just beyond like the Astrol plane.

Yeah. So, but they are way beyond, so they can see everything below their dimension very clearly. So if there’s six dimension, they can see everything. So they’re fully aware of us and they also are way more advanced technologic. We are very young species as humans, but we are so young and they’re very advanced.

You know, nutritions, I don’t even [01:26:00] remember what documentary I was watching, but they were showing how Earth has gone through these patterns and there has actually been more advanced technology than what we have on the earth plane before. And they found it buried in rocks when they go digging. And it just, I’m like, holy crap.

We know we . Yeah. We get. We just think we are like the only kid on the block. Yeah. Our current species and earth has had many incarnations. Yeah. In, in my understanding, we are not that at the top of the food chain, if you will, . Right, right. Thank you for explaining that so well. Yeah. We are very young. We are very young.

Race or species. So are there any aliens that are like humans? . Oh yeah. The humanoids. Yes. Yes. We talk about what humanoids are for a second. . Oh yes. Humanoids. Oh, it’s a humanoid. Humanoid is a head, two arms, two legs and a torso. They usually have two eyes. [01:27:00] Everything’s like the, just how we, we are humanoid.

Mm-hmm. . Um, so like when I was describing the tall whites earlier, they are taller than us, maybe seven or eight feet in height. Mm-hmm. , white, whiter skin. But they do have like white hair that’s a humanoid. They don’t have our flesh tones, but they are humanoid. Mm-hmm. . Um, so, but there are, In my experience, from what I have encountered, they are humanoid, but their skin tone isn’t gonna be like peachy like we are, or earth tones.

We have flesh tones here, but there’s a wide range. Even in humans, we have a wide range of flesh tone. Yes. So humanoids have a different range of skin tones as well. Got it, got it. And textures, I should say textures too. And they don’t often, I was gonna say live and the guide said, operate on this earth [01:28:00] plane.

Right. Um, or do they, so do they operate on this earth plane? Meaning like meaning, would they live in an apartment in Queen Anne and have a job at Google? There have been reported cases, yes. , I don’t know about currently, but. Yes, there have been in they take. So this is what’s interesting. I can only speak from the research I’ve read and talk to other researchers and other healers.

Mm-hmm. they can occupy. Remember this body is a neat suit. Mm-hmm. our spirits animate it. They can’t animate a meat suit. , there are shape shifters. that’s, [01:29:00] yes. So there’s that. And I just don’t wanna get too far off and just start creating sci-fi, like, like storytelling. This is, however, this is part one.

This is why we have part one. . Yeah, . So it is, it’s the same as when there is, um, a possession entity inside of a, you know, human body. There is another being inside driving the bus, if you will. There, there’s another being in the body. So an extra traditional can occupy a body. And it’s hard for them though, especially the higher frequency ones.

It’s hard for them to drop their density down into this physical reality. So they can’t maintain it, from my understanding, for very long periods of time. Hmm. So, um, hold a job at Amazon, , , um, they might be able to phase in and out. You know, cuz that’s the other thing. We we’re applying human logic to what [01:30:00] they can do.

Through our understanding, they can pop and phase in and out. It’s just like cloaking, their ships can cloak in and out of our existence. Left. I mean, it’s just so easy. Phasing in, phasing out. It’s a, a dimensional shift. It’s frequency. That’s such a good way of putting it. Someone sent me a picture, they sent me a picture of the neighbor’s roof and there was actually a spaceship in it.

Oh wow. Wow. And I sent it to a bunch of my friends and I was like, what do you see here? And it, and it couldn’t be mistaken for a drone or anything like that, but yeah. Okay. One other question. Oh, go ahead. What were you gonna say? No, I was gonna say, yeah, so think about, it’s just about frequency. It’s like radio tuning, dialing it into a frequency, it can phase in and.

Yeah. Yeah. Those things that we’re probably capable of, but don’t even realize it yet too. Well, I guess we’ll get there. We’re not quite at that. Okay. Um, the question is, do we [01:31:00] bother them? Why have they gotten sloppy about hiding? Maybe it’s intentional. Um,

yeah. Yeah. I think that there’s no, it is, it’s interesting, like maybe there were, we weren’t supposed to see them, but I’m like, but maybe we were mm-hmm. , that type of thing. You know, it’s like, I can’t speak to what their agendas are. Maybe it’s just like peeling back the veil a little bit and letting the certain groups see them, because you can have two people staring at the same area of.

And one will see something and the other person’s not. It’s like standing with, like doing a house clean. Some person will see the ghost in the corner and the other person will not. It’s what we’re attuning to. And you, there’s also reported cases where that there is direct communication coming through, you know, like say [01:32:00] a part of like, there’ll be something out in space.

There’ll be a group of people noticing an event. Yeah. And there’s information being telepathically transferred to that group of people. Yes. So you can just teach. There’s so much is happening that we, there’s so outside of our understanding of reality. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So I was like, but was it an accident or is it really sloppy

Totally. Totally. And I love that. Yes. Not she asked that question too, because, Again, I’m like, why have I? Because this is not my wheelhouse. I have experience with it. I love supporting the energy work around people who are going down this path. However, it’s not my personal experience, so I’m like, why was this coming to fruition?

And I have to believe we’re having this conversation for a reason. Mm-hmm. , I will say I do have some sort of an inkling that there is gonna be like a [01:33:00] final, I don’t know if it’s like an unveiling, a truth, a whatever, and then we need to kind of figure out what to do with it. So we’re gonna start seeing, I’m just checking.

Like you said, you always check, check. Oh, absolutely. I think we’re gonna start seeing more and more instances of, um, they call ’em UAPs now. , unidentified aerial phenomenon. , they used to be called UFOs, but they’ve relabeled it now. Um, so UFOs. . Yeah. UFOs. UFOs. I think we’re gonna start seeing a lot more documented and published reports through the government channels, but I think what really is happening is it’s happening down at the grassroots level.

It’s happening with average everyday citizens. Yeah. And cuz governments are always in the business of control and they’re, they can’t control this . They’re trying and they’re definitely our militaries are trying, but [01:34:00] um, yes, they are, they are in the business. Yeah. There’s definitely a lot going on there.

I mean, I love the topic. I, I definitely follow forums and under, you know, I just gather information. Yeah. That’s how we learn. That’s why we had this conversation today is just to share information. Yeah. You also, it’s absorbing hit on another point about how they communicate telepathically. And I think that’s something I forgot to have us mention is how do they communicate with us?

that’s, yeah. Telepathically, . Um, so it’s, it’s through our psychic field. It’s, that is, it’s that intuitive field. A tele telepathy, you know, they’re, they are, and of course this is something I’ve researched that they always speak the language. Doesn’t matter what the language speaker is, like what’s French, Italian, Spanish, English.

That [01:35:00] extraterrestrial is always communicating them through the language they know. Yeah. Telepathically. And it’s the same way we’re first connecting, doing mediumship. Doesn’t matter whether the deceased one only spoke Spanish, they will communicate. With Spanish or English, I’m sorry. Even though they only spoke Spanish because telepathically, there’s a conversion filter that happens.

Oh, nice. But, but ets speak telepathic. They also can do, um, drop in visual. This is where this thing, that time where we were talking earlier about the time lapse. Mm-hmm. losing time, they can drop in imagery to replace the experience with visual imagery. In other words, it gets a little tricky. It’s like, they call that, I think I call like a mind wipe , where a memory wipe or they erase the memory banks for that time period.

So you just [01:36:00] might think, oh, I was, we were just over here at the beach. They install memories so that you don’t have conscious memories of an event. Reminds me of men in Black when they would bli people, that thing. Oh wait, there’s always a little bit of truth in everything. . Right, right. Just a little bit of truth.

Well, that’s true. That little like beep, they just have a little light. They just flash you. But I did not know that they will insert new memories. That’s why it’s a little interesting because I always like, there might be an agenda. So hypnosis is always really a good avenue to try and uncover those repressed or hidden memories.

Amazing. Um, I mean, I always, it’s find out a good regressionist. It’s the one that doesn’t prompt you with, you know, lead in questions so that she’s, they’re telling. Your memories. Right, right, right. slippery slope. [01:37:00] But yeah, they can install new memories. So I always like be very, let’s say, stay in your light, connect to your light, be very sovereign in your energy so that you’re not easily manipulated or you know, controlled.

Yeah, yeah. Listener in your conscious. . And when in doubt, just tell your light or your yourself, your higher self, your spirit team. I need a pause. I need a pause, and I need support. Like there’s no problem in pausing. Yeah. So that’s, that’s where your power lies. Yeah. Just like, Hey, I’ve gotta digest this for a minute.

Exactly. Yeah. Um, but yeah, but it answers your question. Telepathy. . Yeah, . So it’s the Vulcan mine meld. I’m just kidding. It like Star Trek, just the Vulcan mine Meld. . There’s a little bit of truth in everything. There is a little bit of truth. Well, thank you so much, so, so much. Oh, it has been fun. I [01:38:00] love this topic.

Yeah, it’s a big one. I could talk for. Yeah, it is a big one and I think that it’s gonna come up again in the near future, and I’m looking forward to chatting it with you and remind everyone where can they find you? You do, oh, do virtual energy sessions as well over the phone? Mm-hmm. ? Um, yeah, so where can they find you?

Yeah, I, my website, it’s a long one, but it’s basically my name Kathy Meic. And that’s c a t h y m e s I c k. Mm-hmm. hyphen. Energy intuitive.com. That’s my website. And there’s an email, you know, link there if they wanna email me with questions or Awesome. Book a session. It’s all pretty self-explanatory.

Self-serve on that website, . That’s awesome. And thanks to the girls for posing those questions. When I ask. Yeah, the group text, we’ll get some more. We’ll collect some more for our next, I think so let’s do this again, because I think we just skimmed [01:39:00] the surface, but. Yes, extraterrestrials are real. They’re just

Interdimensional. Yeah. There you go. So if you have more questions, you can email Kathy, or you can email me, connect emily marie.com with your questions. Please don’t feel weird talking about this stuff is not the easiest thing, and emailing your questions may feel kind of funky. Just send him Yeah, we, we love him.

So, and I’m, you’re a good resource. I just wanna say you’re a very good resource, . Thank you. Thank you. So are you, and I’m getting the notification. It’s time. It’s time to close. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Kathy. Thanks so much for listening to today’s episode. Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review, and make sure you’ve signed up for the newsletter for special insights, offerings, and announcements that are just for you.[01:40:00]

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