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[00:00:00] Welcome everyone to the Your Energy First Podcast. I’m your host, Emily Marie, and it is such a pleasure to have you here today to co-create with you in this space and to talk about all things your energy.

Welcome back to the podcast. It is so good to have you here today. I am interviewing Kathy Slosky. She is a pet and animal communicator. Her website is, I speak with animals. I love the emphasis on the width. and Kathy’s got a really great story about how she came into this and I think it’s such a good example of how our [00:01:00] intuitive and energy path sort of guides us as opposed to us sort of saying, okay, I’m ready now and all the doors opening we need, we need to go on a journey.

You need to go on a journey. And it’s actually not so bad. It’s kind of fun. So it can be a little frustrating sometimes. I have been there, I still go through those moments sometimes and it’s all normal part of the process. And Kathy has some incredible stories. She shares, some of them practically brought tears to my eyes.

And one thing I will note is we recorded this on, uh, excuse me, on Zoom. with the Interlight Circle community, which I’m gonna be renaming Interlight community because as much as I love the symbol of the circle , um, which means everybody’s energy is equal because it is, which funny enough, Kathy actually touches on the [00:02:00] topic of our souls, because obviously our souls are energy and.

I think it’s time. What’s felt like it’s time, been time. Wow. For a little bit of a fresh start and a revamp. And that’s actually one of the things to note about your journey as well, is you are gonna have multiple versions and iterations of your journey. So you could be someone who already has a career you’re satisfied with.

You could be searching for a new career, you could be a business owner. And in all three of those things, they are gonna have multiple iterations for you. And that is something I wish I had understood at the beginning of my journey owning my own businesses. We are meant to have multiple iterations and instead,

What we desire, , is we desire to be all in [00:03:00] right away with the right thing, but in part because you are bringing your own special skillset into this world and based on your own experiences, it’s all gonna look just a little bit different. And on that note, I have a new container I’m offering, which I am so excited about.

It is called the Alignment Container. That’s what it’s called today. Who knows if it’ll change. Again, this is its current iteration, , and it is a minimum three month. You can go up to, oh my. Five months. I keep wanting to say six, but the guys are not giving me six. They’re saying five. You can go three up to five months with this.

And basically it is regular one-on-one sessions with me to help you develop your own [00:04:00] intuition and your own energy skillset. We are also focusing, if you’re a business owner and maybe you’ve had a lot of success, but you’ve plateaued or you’re feeling run down or like you don’t have time for the things in life you wanna do.

Um, one of the things that is my skillset when it comes to energy is I actually, my degree is in. and I’ve started multiple businesses in my lifetime. I love it. My degree’s in finance, actually not business specifically. Finance, and I, for whatever reason, have this knack for working with this energy of spirit that helps people develop careers and, uh, evolve their businesses.

And I’ve had a number of clients show up this way in the last year and I absolutely love the work. So if you are in that realm, um, we actually get to the items that [00:05:00] are blocking you. And I show you your own tools. I shouldn’t say I show you. I hold space for us to help you develop your own tools because you guys know I teach y’all how to fish

This is how you develop your energy, your tool sets, so that you can then in the future work through these plateaus. And then what’s really cool is your spirit team comes in and is like, zip, Z, Z. Here are some recommendations we have for your business, and that is such a fun thing. Then if you are someone who is still trying to figure out what is my purpose?

Oh, I have been there. I have been there. , and discovering your purpose is a journey. It’s a journey, and I don’t believe there is a program out there that says, okay, by the end of this, you’ll find your purpose. However, again, we will develop your intuition and develop your own personal tools and skillsets to help you on the.

to [00:06:00] discovering it for yourself. And yes, this does mean you’re going to feel closer and more aligned with your spirit guides and spirit team along the way and your higher self and so many other beautiful parts of the journey that is at a high level, that offering is going to, it may be out by the time this podcast is out.

go to my website . You guys. I’m so good at marketing. Oh, goodness gracious. The guides do give marketing tips, by the way, in some of these sessions. And I will literally, I have to say the client, Hey, I’ve never done this before. This sounds really cool. Or, wow, I would never do that for my business. I hadn’t thought about it that way before.

It’s pretty fun. Uh, let’s see. And I also have the, this is something that’s been ruminating for a couple of months, so we just had the reset and renew energy healing retreat and. It was such an incredible experience all around. Um, the [00:07:00] women who showed up were absolutely phenomenal. They dove right in with each other, with the work, and we had fun.

We had a blast, and I really saw how there is something so special about creating a container and a space for women to feel nourished and cared for so that they can just relax and focus on themselves. And people shared incredible stories. And it was so fun because I’d be like walking, you know, through the kitchen or down the hallway and you run into someone and they’re like, oh, I just realized X, Y, z,

Because we would have sessions where you practice and then of course you start putting it into real life and then you get to talk about it in real time in a house where everybody’s hanging out, talking about, and doing the same stuff. It was really, really neat. And I’ll be sharing some of their reviews with you folks so you can kind of get a feel for what it is they [00:08:00] experience, see if it’s something you want to partake in in the future.

So I will be holding space for more retreats that are gonna be in person. and those are all gonna be guided too. So I feel the next one coming up, it is going to be maybe a little bit more, it’s gonna have more trees around the location. I think it’s, this one’s gonna be local to Seattle. Again, we’re gonna do destination ones in the future.

And it also, I’m pretty sure it’s gonna have a water view for this one. I just got a yes for that. So much, much more to come and ways to help you. develop these things that we’ve been talking about episode after episode . Also, the other part that’s been ruminating that I’m so excited to announce is a virtual reset and renew retreat in January.

So it is going to be for two hours every Saturday starting January [00:09:00] 7th, and while, no, it’s not the same as getting to take half a week away for yourself, it is definitely something that is gonna still be a very beautiful container. And we are going to work on you and your energy, connecting with your intuition, releasing part of your past, pulling in tools to support the guides are saying, and provide comfort for what it is you’re moving forward to do.

And it’s perfect time because energetically January is typically not a big time. when it comes to things that are, I don’t know, energetic, right? Like the solstice are pretty big. There’s other elements that are pretty big. For whatever reason, this January feels astrologically important. I should probably do a little Google search, but you know me not a big astrologer, although I love it.

More of a intuitive, okay? What feels good, what feels right? And this has been ruminating in my mind for a long time. So I’m so excited to [00:10:00] announce this retreat. It’s going to be $97 if you sign up before December 1st. And. You will have access to all of the recordings for Infinity. And what I love about what we’re gonna be doing on this virtual retreat is the recordings are gonna provide you with activities you can repeat for yourself over time.

And every time you repeat them, you gain more intuitive and, uh, intuitive strength and clarity. So on that note, we are going to dive into this podcast episode with Kathy, who is going to talk to us about communicating with our pets and animals. Hi Kathy. Welcome. Welcome. So happy to have you here. How are you?

Hi. I’m very well. Thank you. We have some really rather lovely, [00:11:00] um, autumn weather here in Scotland at the moment. Oh, I’m so glad to hear that. Oh, you’re in Scotland. Yes. Oh my gosh, I didn’t know. That’s amazing. . I, uh, am my family’s from Scotland on the other side. Oh, wow. It’s really neat. Yes, neat. Well, welcome.

Welcome. It is so wonderful to have you here. Thank you. And we have some members from the Interlight community here as well. So we were just, um, catching up before our time together today. And yeah, we, I’m going to interview you. We’re gonna have a fun little chat about your story and communicating with our lovely, lovely animal friends.

And then if anyone has questions along the way, you’re welcome to drop them in the chat or if it makes sense, go off of [00:12:00] mute and ask the question as we go along. How does that sound? I’m very happy to take questions as we go along. Oh, it’s so wonderful. Okay, so Kathy, your, uh, I’ll call it businesses. I speak with animals.

Yes. And you do. I’ve had a couple of sessions with you and my cats and it’s just been so lovely and so helpful. And how did you originally get into this line of work? How did you get in, how’d you realize you were an animal communicator? Well, uh, one of my dogs went to an animal communicator many years ago, and, uh, she told me something she could not have known.

It was something very unusual that had happened to him as a puffy mm-hmm. , and, uh, so I knew it was real. Mm-hmm. . But I always believed in life that the teacher comes when the pupil’s ready. [00:13:00] And so fast forward nearly 20 years, . Oh, and meantime, I’d been doing a lot of psychic development work and, and I, I’d been reading tarot cards at that point for about 10 years professionally.

Um, and, uh, learning all kinds of things. But I, I was contacted by someone I hadn’t seen for nearly 20 years, an old friend, and she found me on Facebook and we hooked up and we phoned each other and we had a catch up. Mm-hmm. . And about two weeks later she posted on Facebook that she was running an animal communication weekend workshop.

And I thought, oh my God, I’m supposed to be there, and it in Scotland. I didn’t live in Scotland then. So I went to the workshop and uh, I came home and said to my partner, Mike, I, and, and this was so true. I completely understood at that moment why everything in my life had happened to me, good and [00:14:00] bad.

Everything happened to bring me to that moment in time when I was ready to find my soul’s purpose, which is animal communication. And so then I set about practicing every chance I got . I love it. I love that story because that is probably one of the, I think, biggest misconceptions on anyone’s spiritual path.

We think, oh, I’m gonna get there, and then the door opens and then I move forward with it. But really, it’s all of the steps. And you’ve mentioned practicing and psychic development a couple of times. It’s all about practice, practice, practice, and life leads us where we’re meant to be. It is. And, and I had an interesting series of events that led up to this.

Mm-hmm. , um, about two years before I was a, a psychic fair doing tarot card readings and I was having a complete crisis of confidence. Mm-hmm. , I, before I left, I was saying to Michael, I don’t even know what [00:15:00] I’m going, I’m just not good enough at this to do it professionally, even though I’d been doing it for several years.

And, uh, when I got there, you know, when you just see somebody and you know you have to talk to them, you just know Yeah. They’re probably so part of your soul group and that’s why. Right. And I saw this lady and I just had to go and talk to her and she was doing, uh, readings as well. and I went over to her and I said, I don’t know why I need to talk to you, but my name’s Kathy and I’m supposed to be doing readings today and I dunno if I can do it.

I’m having complete crisis. So she said, oh, sit down. And she got out of spray and she went, I’m gonna spray you with the violet flame. And I’m calling in the Arc Angels. And she did all this stuff and then she said, um, now go do your thing. You’re gonna be fine. And she came round in the lu around lunchtime and said, how are you doing?

And I said, fine, thank you. I’m doing fine. And she gave me a card and said, come and see me. And I did. And she took me through all kinds of new learning that I’ve never done [00:16:00] before. She’s a very dear friend of mine now. And then about eight or nine months later probably, I went to a psychic fair to do readings and I saw a lady and I had to go and talk to her.

And again, she’s a very dear friend of mine now, Susie. And, um, I asked what she did and she said she does, uh, she’s a light worker. . And I said, well, I’ve heard of light work. I don’t really know what it is. What do you do? And she said, I do what I’m guided to do. So I figured I had to go and see her. So I went and saw her and she unlocked something in me.

Mm. Despite years of going to psychic development groups, it was like I always had a block, uh, that was there. Right. And I, and I never knew why. And everyone around me, for example, if we did a meditation to meet your spirit guide mm-hmm. , everyone met their spirit guides. But me, and this went on for years.

Everyone met their spirit animals. But me, I never met anybody. I never saw anything. Um, and then Susie unlocked [00:17:00] something in me and my energy did a huge shift. I suddenly found I was more empathic, I was more energetically aware. Mm-hmm. . And um, and about six months after that, I went to a psychic development day and we did a meditation to meet our power animal.

And I thought, here we go again. . Everyone else is gonna meet somebody but me. And during the meditation, and I absolutely believe that I had to meet Jay, do the work with her, meet Susie be unlocked, and then up walked my bear, Shiloh, my power animal, who now helps me with my animal communication readings.

And I really honestly believe if those three things hadn’t happened, even if I’d gone to that Amer, that animal communication workshop, I would’ve come away thinking or why. I don’t know if that’s for me. It was the sequence of events that led me to that moment. And they had to happen mm-hmm. before that animal communication workshop.

So I’m a, a great, great believer that the universe puts these [00:18:00] things in front of us and it’s our choice whether we go with that flow or we fight it. And I went with that flow partly because one of the things Susie said to me the first time I ever met her, was if you, you always know if you’re following your soul’s purpose, because if you are, everything’s flowing in the right direction.

But if you start to get obstacles, it’s the universe’s way or whatever you believe in. It’s their way of saying, you’re going in the wrong direction, so we’re gonna make this difficult for, you’re gonna make it uncomfortable so that you’ll move in a different direction. And uh, from that moment on, I always tried to do that and I think that was also huge in bringing me to where I was when I went to that workshop.

Right, right. That’s such a cool, I love also how you, you took the steps you learned, and then helpers came in along the way, and a variety of helpers too. You know, I have seen, I agree with you when you’re in a, when you know, when you’re aligned, [00:19:00] when you’re in the flow with what you’re doing it, it just feels like you’re in that state of being this.

Yes, I have seen, I would like your opinion on this. , you know this sometimes getting to that alignment is the, the friction, right? Because we’re getting out of old habits, we’re getting out of our old lifestyle. I’ve seen that kind of friction. So I have, for me, on my path, the path to getting to alignment came with some tough lessons because I wasn’t ready for alignment until I undid where I came from.

If that makes sense. So to offer one additional perspective for people listening. So what part, so you’re doing psychic development, so what part of it made you love the animal communication part so much? . Um, I’ve always wanted to work with animals ever since I was a child and I, I never have worked with animals.

It’s not something I’ve done [00:20:00] well. I say that I’m, I. Been very big into homeopathy and natural healing for many years. Yeah. And I did part of the studying to become a homeopath years ago, back in the 1990s. Um, I, I love homeopathy, I love herbs, I love natural healing methods. I’m a reiki master. Um, I am an e f T tapping practitioner as well, although I don’t do those anymore.

Once I found animal communication, it was like, that’s not my, I really strongly feel that’s not my path. It doesn’t mean I don’t use those things. Right. But I don’t really often use them or feel called to use them. Um, So it’s, uh, for me, the animal communication thing kind of brought me in a circle back to really working with animals rather than, um, a lot of my friends would tell you, and people I know would tell you if they have an animal that’s not well then the vets don’t know what’s going on.

I get a message on Facebook or I get an email saying, oh, this is what’s going [00:21:00] on. If you’ve got any ideas, this is before the animal communication. Mm-hmm. , the wonderful thing about the animal communication, I don’t know if you’ve heard of Zoo Pharma Cocy? No. It’s a system developed by a lady called Caroline Ingraham, and it’s, uh, treating animals ailments through selection and they may select minerals or herbs or essential oils, and it, it’s amazing to watch.

It is absolutely fascinating. You would, for example, if you have a poorly horse, you would, uh, pick some essential oils, very high grade, therapeutic essential oils, and you would take them and you would just hold them somewhere near the horse. And if the horse needs it, he will come forward and sniff the oil.

And for as long as he wants to sniff it, you let him sniff it. And then when he doesn’t want it anymore, he’ll turn away. And it’s quite interesting. You see their faces transform, their eyes soften, they get droopy and, and relaxed. It’s quite an amazing thing to watch. [00:22:00] And the wonderful thing about, uh, animal communication is you can do a similar thing.

So a lot of the work I do is with animals who have various things wrong with them. Mm-hmm. . And we can ask the animals what herbs they need, what essential oils they need, what homeopathic remedies or physical therapies they need. And very often they know, so they choose their healing path through the animal communication.

That’s amazing. Mm, it is. It blows my mind. . Well, and this gets to my next question, which is what I have found holding space for animal communication myself, and then my sessions with you and my cats is I am, to me, their souls are a little bit more, let’s say, advanced than we give them credit for. First of all, originally, what has been your experience as far as the wisdom [00:23:00] and the, for some reason it’s like this beingness that they seem to present in sessions.

What have you noticed? The, the, the way I always look at it with them, they’re, they’re more connected spiritually. They’re connected with their higher selves, they’re connected with their guides. They’re connected much more spiritually than we are. And so it’s not uncommon to find that an animal is incredibly wise and in incre, incredibly aware.

For example, um, they’ll often tell us why they’re with us, that they’ve been with us in past lives, and they’ll describe those past lives. Now, we generally don’t remember. We need a past life regression to find out . Yeah. Um, but, but many of them know, many of them know when they’ve been with us before, with us, before they’ve described those events.

But an interesting thing about souls is, and I know this can be a controversial subject, , um, we’re our souls and their souls are, we’re all the same souls. We just choose what [00:24:00] species we, we want to come as for this physical experience. Right. And so, but when we come as animals, we come much more connected spiritually than we do when we come as people.

Wow. Do most pets you communicate with, or most animals you communicate with, are they all pretty strongly connected to their owners? Not always. Okay. Um, it, it’s, it’s, uh, it can be about a bit upsetting for owners. This, um, or I, I tend to call them family members. Mm-hmm. , it can be quite upsetting for them when that’s not the case.

But, um, I’m sure you’ll completely understand this. We come into a physical lifetime for a physical experience, and we also come for a purpose, right? So we may have an animal come into our life who, um, is not very connected with us. Spiritually, they’re not even part of our soul group. They’re, they’ve never been with us in a previous life, but [00:25:00] they’re here for a very specific purpose.

Wow. And then once they go, they’re again, not very connected to us. So it can be that when an animal passes over and I’m asked to do a reading with them, um, very often they’ll be saying, oh, I’m around you and I’m gonna hang around you till I know you’re okay. Um, or I come in the evenings and sit with you.

Right. And, and a lot of them do that for a while, but some of them are not connected to us in that way. And so once they pass over, they off they go. Wow. And I think we know, because we’ve all had animals in our lives that are our heart and soul. They’re, they’re our heart. What we call our heart dog or our heart, horse or cat.

And those animals are our, our soulmates. Yeah, they’re, they’re totally connected with us spiritually. Um, whereas we’ve all at times had animals that we just don’t feel quite such a strong connection to. Right. And that’s either because we’ve [00:26:00] not been with us as them as much. Um, we’ve not worked and cooperated together in different lifetimes so much.

We’re not as connected, right. With those actors. Have you ever seen a heart, like a soulmate, pet, animal, family member come back into their life again as another animal and have the same connection? It has happened so often. You wouldn’t believe this is something that really surprised me. Our dog now, he’s been with us before.

Yeah. And um, I’ve had one of my female dogs, she came back to me again. It’s really surprised me when I first started doing animal communication, a, I didn’t think I would spend so much time talking with animals who’ve passed over. Mm-hmm. . It’s probably 40% of what I do. And they have gradually, once I’ve been doing it for two or three years, they started teaching me about the other side about grief and regrets and how they view all these things and what happens when they pass.

Cause I’ve been connected [00:27:00] with animals who’ve passed over and, and it’s really interesting to get their take on these things. But, um, yes, they, they, um, with animals that we’re very connected with, they will come back. It’s not uncommon at all. Mm-hmm. . And if you’ve got an animal or you’ve had an animal that you think, God, he reminds me of, my old cat keeps doing that thing that Yeah.

The pigeon, I had used to do . Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn’t matter what It’s, when you keep getting that, that’s usually a clue to the fact that you’ve got a reincarnated animal back with you. I love that. That makes me happy. Um, when you say they’ve taught you about what happens when they cross over, what have they taught you?

What are some of the things they’ve taught you? Amazing things. Amazing things. Um, I, I mean, I have no fear of passing over myself. I know what happens. I know what it’s like. Um, obviously we are met by many loved ones. [00:28:00] I’ll, I’ll tell you a, a, a particular experience. The first time I was connected with an animal while they passed mm-hmm.

Um, I’m actually writing a book and the first chapter of the book talks about this there. There was a cat called Brandon Boo, and he lived in America and his mommy contacted me and said, the vet’s coming this afternoon to put him to sleep. Could you please be connected with him? Because I’m really worried he hated to be alone.

I don’t want him to be alone. Right. So I asked Brandon Boo if he minded if I was connected with him. He said, no, not at all. So we were in contact and then I got the message saying, the vet’s here, he’s gonna do it in a few moments. And it was the most beautiful thing. I cried my eyes out at the time. , I’m a bit bit more in control these days, but I, what I saw was Brandon Boo rise up into a very dark place.

It was loud like he was in a black place, [00:29:00] but I could see him absolutely, clearly. There was no problem seeing him. And it was like he went as he let go of the body and all the things that were. You know, causing any difficulties to him. And, um, he was just sitting there and I said to him, can we talk? And he said, yes we can.

I said, so what’s, what’s going on? You know, what am I seeing? And he said, oh, and this is, I think this is what we call the transition. Mm-hmm. , this is that time from here. Mm-hmm. . And he said, you know, I’m just releasing everything, letting go, and my friends and everybody’s around me. And I could see, all of a sudden we, we talked for a couple of minutes, I saw all these white hands.

Mm-hmm. circle and come in around him and they scooped him up and they carried him into a beam of white light where he went to be healed. And we can stay in healing for up to a couple of weeks. It’s so, it’s our [00:30:00] energy being balanced and restored. Mm-hmm. . And then we’re free to do anything we want. We.

Four to the stars, we have no limits on time or space. We can do what we wanna do. And lots of animals have jobs on the other side, which is really fascinating too. You know, they’re helping other animals or they’re helping people. So, and they’ve, they’ve talked to me about how they feel about grief and loss and all those kind of things.

And of course once you’re on the other side, you see things quite differently as well because you understand everything once you’re there. So it is been a fascinating journey, learning so much from them about that, about what happens to us. What have they shared with you about our grief process or grief?

Grief. They understand that we have to grieve and they, you know, they totally get it and they accept that, um, they’re, the big thing that they’ve shared is how they feel about regret. that [00:31:00] there is no regret. Um, something I very often say to people during readings, uh, because they’ve told me this in so many different ways, any decision we make for them out of love is always the right decision.

Aw. And so we often suffer worse grief, and we suffer regrets because we’re beating ourselves up. Did I do it too soon? Did I do it too late? Did I let them suffer? Have I just killed my animal? And there was no need that they could have had more time here, and we’d beat ourselves up with these questions whenever we have to make that decision.

But interesting, what they say is, whatever decision you made, if it was made out of love, it was always the right decision, and it was always made at the right time, always without exception. That’s so sweet. And that makes sense. Useful isn’t sense. Yeah. It’s, it still doesn’t replace how much we miss them

No. And they miss the physical [00:32:00] experience. They miss the touch. Oh. But they can be with us as much as they, as they want to be. Yeah. And some of them do. Some stay as a guardian for us, or a helper for us as well. Yeah. Yeah. I believe that. I wonder does their element, so what I would, what I would term that would be they become a part of our spirit team.

You know, the guardian, the helper. So Yes. Say they’re part of our spirit team and then they decide it’s time. It makes sense. Everything’s aligned for them to come back. Mm. Do you think. That there’s an aspect of their energy that’s still on our spirit team and then they come forward? Or do you think that energy just strictly comes forward back down into this experience with us?

I believe their higher self remains part of our spirit team. Yeah. So, you know, that part of us that’s always in spirits. Yeah. And, and that, that part because it’s an [00:33:00] interesting thing. I can communicate with the higher self of an animal as opposed to the physical, um, animal here. Uh, for example, if somebody’s got a dog that’s terrified of thunder and they want me to talk to the dog while there’s a th storm going on, right?

It’s almost impossible. But I can connect to ask their permission to talk with their higher self, um, because that part of them as calm as anything you can tell me what their family can do to help. Um, so yes, I believe that the, the, the, uh, the higher self is, or whatever you want to call it, is always part of parcel.

Yeah. Yeah, our, our spirit team. Oh, so sweet. Do you ever come across any animals that are just kind of jerks? . ? Yeah. I do. I do Occasionally, yes. I come across a lot of funny animals as well. Oh, good. Um, if I, I’m hoping it won’t interfere with a connection. There’s something I would love to read you that just happened yesterday actually.

Oh, please. Um, I [00:34:00] have a, a client who’s become a friend who has a horse, and her horse recently started giving her poems to write down, and these poems will blow your mind. I will read you one poem, the only one she sent me, his first ever poem that he, he wrote, it’s called Peace is Instilled. Peace is instilled when peace is remembered.

It has never gone or lost. When trouble troubles come, we overflow and peace is washed away. When we can be still and we can be calm, we can forge the way the peaceful waves roll gently on. And we remember, don’t lose heart. If you are sad, the tide will turn again a dawn in you to carry you back to peace again.

Now, we asked magic yesterday. Um, if he would like to have a say in what goes in [00:35:00] the introduction to the book, and this is what he wants it to say. There is more in this world than many people understand. And when we think of poems, we think of famous people that people come in. Many gues, in this case, the case, the poet, is a pony called magic.

He is called to bring his words to the world via his dear human friend because horses can’t type. He wants a picture of his hooves next to where it says horses can’t type . I cannot wait to get your book. Is that Well, this is gonna, this one’s going to be her book . We’re gonna have to get her information too.

I’m going to put all of this in the show notes for us to, so your information, Kathy, the self animal selection item we talked about earlier and that, let me make a little note ski. That is so beautiful. That is so amazing. It is. And it was funny because, uh, [00:36:00] when you’re an animal communicator, people often, um, want to ask her animal about something, but they don’t want you to know what it is because they want to be sure of the answer from the animal.

So when we talked about this poetry the first time, my friend said, can you just, I, I don’t wanna tell you what this is about. Can you ask him about the book? And Magic said, what book? And she said, tell him it’s the book I’ve been writing in. And magic’s answer was, you know, I write poetry. And she went, I was thinking it was me.

I kept thinking, is it just me? And it’s not really coming from him. , we have chills. We have chills. So what I’m hearing is we can even create with our animals, our animals wanna create with us. Yes. Wow. And he’s been very clear during the reading we did two days ago that he wants, um, the world to know this is, although he’s writing the [00:37:00] poetry, she’s bringing it to the world for him.

He wants her name in there that, that she is part of this creation process. I wanna cry and I wanna save all the animals and all the world. So they’re amazing. Amazing. Oh, absolutely. So when. So how would you, so your client went through this process of, so she had this discovery of, oh, it is him. She’s create, let’s say she’s energetically creating with him.

I love, his name is magic too. Of course. Yes. So how would someone who also maybe feels this inclination with their pet or pets maybe that they’re intuiting information from them, co-creating with them, how would you suggest they develop it and trust it? This is the big issue as you know it, trusting it.

It’s true with anything that we do. I mean, when [00:38:00] we learn to read cards or when we become a, he start practicing a healing, we are always in. , are we actually doing this? Are we actually helping? And we, we fill ourselves with doubt for absolutely no reason whatsoever. But we do. It’s, it’s the way we are. Um, the, the biggest thing I say to people is we are all picking up information all the time from our animals.

And communication comes in many forms. It can be anything from your dog goes and tugs at the lead hanging on the wall mm-hmm. , um, to let you know he wants for a walk to your cat going and pouring the treat cupboard because she wants a treat. Mm-hmm. . Um, that’s a communication, but we’re picking up other types of communication all the time and we are just not aware of it.

And one of the things I recommend people do to just increase that bond is to bring communication, a more direct communication with them into everyday. So the way I suggest people do it is, let’s say for [00:39:00] example, you’ve got a cat and you’ve got various flavors of cat food that you feed your cat. So start allowing your cat to choose what they have for dinner.

So before you open the shin, you say, do you want salmon or do you want chicken? And go with what you think the answer is. Mm-hmm. , because the cat has answered. She’s told you what she wants and we, we’ve picked it up. We just don’t know we have. So just go with it. And if you’re gonna take your dog for a walk, do you want to go to the left?

Do you want to go to the right? Do you want to go to the river? Do you want to go to the park? Ask them and initially just go with what they say and you’ll start to find over time that they’re making it clearer, your understanding or, and you are beginning to build a better, um, connection in terms of understanding the telepathics stuff that they’re constantly giving us and they’re reading us all the time as well.

So [00:40:00] really big thing I have most of my clients doing now is visualizing for their animals. Yeah. They’re brilliant at visualization. We can communicate with them telepathically, even if we’re not picking them. . So for example, if you have a dog with separation anxiety, you and you’re going to go out for the evening.

What you can do is visualize for them. You go out the door, they lay down quietly, they relax, they go to sleep. Surround that image with pride and love for them, how clever they are. And then you show you come back in big happy reunion so they know you’re coming back. Yeah. And if you’re gonna be away for a few days, you can do dark.

It gets dark, it gets light, dark, light. And while you are away each day it’s one less dark and light until you come home. And some animals pick this up amazingly. I’ve had, I’ve seen clients with staggering things happen just by them starting to use visualization with their. [00:41:00] That’s a, that’s amazing. You know, the, what you just suggested about showing them the day in the light.

That’s what I do with my cats when I’m gone and it works. You, you have this moment of like, is this even working? And then all of a sudden it’s just become so easy and simple. I checked in with my cat one time while I was on vacation and she showed me her ears were hurting and you know, as a, as a cat owner, are you gonna like panic mode for a second?

And then I remembered the cat sitter said she had put a radio on to keep the cat company. So I just texted the cat sitter and saying, Hey, can you please go get rid of that now? And then she let me know when she did and then I checked in with my cat again. I was like, how are you? She’s like, I’m fine . You know,

So I love that. That’s brilliant. Yeah. So practice and practice with the food, um, with the walks and the visualization for anyone. We actually have some folks who can’t visualize. [00:42:00] Or Yes. Yeah. What do you recommend for that? I’ve never used to be able to visualize. I, I’ve been doing this for about two years when I suddenly started picking up images and I didn’t realize straight away what it was.

Mm-hmm. , but I’m now sure they were giving me images from the beginning, but I was completely unable to visualize. Uh, I was that person that, in these wonderful meditations where I never met my spirit guide or anybody, they’d start by saying, you’re walking down a country lane and you can see a forest in the distance.

And I’d be sitting there thinking, I can’t see anything. I’ll just keep my eyes shut and go with the words. And, and then, um, I had a friend, I became friends with a Native American lady. An American lady, and, uh, from, uh, an American lady, sorry, a Native American lady who lived in America, and she was over here staying with me.

And she, I had another friend who had a sick dog. And she said, would you like this, uh, this Native American lady, her name was Arlene. She said, would you like to [00:43:00] participate in a healing? And I said, I’d love to. And I was doing reiki at that time. I thought it was gonna be something like that. But no, it was something entirely different.

She said, we’ll, go to your bedroom, lie on the bed, and I’m gonna take them into meditation. And she started by saying, okay, you are, you are walking down a staircase. And I opened one eye and said, I have to tell you, I can’t visualize. She said, oh, that doesn’t matter. Just know it’s there. Mm. And that’s all you have to do is know it’s there.

You don’t have to be able to see it. So if people can’t visualize, for example, that they’re going out the door, just know that you are going out the door when you’re projecting, this is the animal, I’m going out the door. It, it just is. Right. I don’t have to actually have that image in my head. Your animal door.

Still pick it up from. Oh, perfect, perfect. They’re so smart. They’re so smart. They’re, but if you’re going to use telepathic communication where you’re not using words, don’t use it for mundane day-to-day things [00:44:00] because they tune our voices out. We’re terrible. I, I don’t know if you do this with your animals, but if I’m in the kitchen washing the dishes and Teddy comes in, I’m like, oh, hello teddy bear.

How you doing? Big boy? Oh, mommy’s washing the dishes. We’ll go for a little walk later. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they tune us out. . So you don’t want them to tune out telepathic communication. So for giving them choices, um, and important things. Okay. Oh, that’s so sweet and hilarious. Well, I’m sure they have to tune us out to keep their sanity

Cause they don’t chatter like we do. I, it is very unusual for me to be communicating with. . Um, without warning it does happen, but it’s quite unusual. Mm-hmm. , it’s when I ask them questions, they will respond. And although some are quite chatty, particularly the more they get used to the process at the same time, it’s very rare for them to instigate conversations because they don’t feel [00:45:00] the need to chatter like we do

Right, right. Oh, so sweet. What has been one of the biggest surprises about this line of work for you? That’s a good question. I think it there the biggest surprise. There been lots of surprises over the years. I think the biggest surprise was when I found out that all our souls are the same. Mm-hmm. And the way I found that out, I was given concrete proof.

I, I don’t just think we’re all the same souls. I know we are because I’m with you. What was this concrete proof? Um, I became friends with a lady in America. I’ve got a Bernie Mountain dog. I’ve had Bernie Mountain dogs for 40 years, and at that time I had three Beese Mountain dogs. Wow. And one of them was actually reincarnated back to me.

Her name was Kira. And I made friends with a lady in Florida and she invited [00:46:00] me over after we’d got to know each other for a few months on Facebook. And I went to stay with her. And she invited friends over and I did readings and for her friends and things like that. And she had a Bernie’s mountain dog.

Two boys actually. Mm-hmm. . And over the next two or three years during our friendship, I, I often did readings for her. And one of the readings, her boy tanker said that he and Michael Kira had been married in a previous life. Excuse me, child. I bit taken aback. And we didn’t follow it up until about two years later.

Um, well about a year later, my Kira passed away and went straight to their house to be with her love tanker. They kept hearing her co they said to me, did Kira wear a collar that jingled? And I got her collar and jingled it. And they said, that’s what we keep hearing. At night since she passed, she went to be with Tanker.

And then when tanker passed, we did a reading with him and my friend decided to ask him some questions about [00:47:00] this. So she asked him, what was your name? And he said, Ben Johnson, where did you live? In a village in south of England. And she said, did you have children? Yes. And he gave two names, little Benny and Alice.

She asked him what he did for a living. He said he was a blacksmith and there was more, but they are the key things. I remember because when the reading was over, I went to see if I could find him online. And I didn’t know then that the blacksmith keeps Rec Keep Records back for the last couple of hundred years.

And I found him, his name was Ben Johnson. He lived in a village called Hawk Hurst in Kent. Um, he was married to, I think his wife’s, what was his wife’s name? I think it might have been Mary. I can’t quite remember. But obviously that was my clearer, and his oldest son was Ben or Benny, and he has six or seven children, and his second youngest daughter was Alice.

So everything he said I found [00:48:00] that’s, I know all over my body. I love that. I love that. That’s amazing. Were there any, can you imagine how mind blown I was when I found that information online? It, it shifts. It shifts and grounds your perspective, I’m sure from that point forward. Absolutely because, and it, and it’s quite funny because one of the things that’s changed with me, um, like a lot of people, I tend to anthro for more parts, my pets, whatever the word is, always have trouble with that one.

Um, I tend to do that as, a lot of people do treat them like humans. But something I realized after that was they’re here for the experience of being the animal. So while I understand that they’re more spiritually connected, they’re wise, they, they hear what we say, they read what we think they’re, they’re way deeper than we ever think they are.

We have to honor the species they’re experiencing. [00:49:00] Mm-hmm. So if they come back as a goat, they’re gonna want to head butt people and bounce around when they’re little and jump on straw bales. That’s part of being a goat. That’s why they came as a goat. So we have to honor the fact that our dog is a dog, or our horse is a horse, or our pig is a pig.

While understanding that they want that life. Okay. But there’s so much more to them that we can now tap into. That’s amazing. So we can’t bring the goat into bed to snuggle with us. He needs to be a goat in the barn. He needs to be a goat. He might be a goat who likes to snuggle in bed, but he, he might not.

So why is it so challenging for us to communicate with our own pets versus communicating with other people’s pets can be fluid and easy? Yeah. It’s a, it is quite a simple one. This, um, we trip ourselves up [00:50:00] because, um, as you know, uh, communication comes in in various ways, but very often it feels like our own thoughts.

Mm-hmm. . And so we trip ourselves up by our lack of faith. In ourselves and deciding that we knew what they were going to say and they said it, and so it wasn’t them. It was me. Yeah, but it’s interesting. I teach an animal communication workshop, a two hour online, one and one, and I cover this in. Quite, quite a bit.

This entire issue with animal communication. And one of the things that I try to get through to people is that at that moment when you ask that question, if you can just suspend disbelief for a moment and let whatever comes in come in, which may be a physical feeling, you might taste something, you might, um, get an image in your mind.

You may hear something or get thoughts going through your head, but whatever the first thing is that comes in [00:51:00] is always them. It’s always them guaranteed 100%. If you change it, that’s you getting involved. And of course we very often know our animals well and we ask silly questions like, what’s your favorite treat?

And they say, beef chewies. And we go, well that must have been me because I knew my dog was gonna say that. Well, yeah, sure, , of course he’s gonna say that it was him. But how do you know? Right? But the interesting thing, and something I recommend people do is they write down every time they’re gonna ask a question, write the question down, write down the first thing they get.

Because you start to notice quite quickly actually, that you are actually getting answers you didn’t expect. So you ask them, what’s the fav? Your favorite kind of meat? And they say pork and you think, damn, I was convinced they love chicken the most. That’s your clue right there. That’s the reinforcement for your own lack of.

Belief in yourself that actually you were [00:52:00] wrong about their favorite me, and they’ve told you which one they liked the best. Mm-hmm. . And as you write it down and you look back, you start going, well, there all these things I didn’t know and I didn’t expect, because again, we think we know them so well and we do know them well.

But sometimes, for example, what’s your favorite game? Their favorite game isn’t the one they play the most with us, but they play that the most with us because we love it. , of course, of course. Their favorite game is actually a different game entirely. And so when you start to communicate with them and ask them questions, you start getting answers you didn’t expect.

And that helps you to start to really understand that this is true, genuine, real, and you are capable of doing it and picking it up. But it’s so difficult with our own animals at the beginning because we just think that we know the answer. That’s why we got that answer. It never came from them. Yeah. And it did.

It [00:53:00] always did. Yeah. It’s like we’re training ourselves to be, to engage with the energetic side of ourselves instead of the literal side of ourselves. Yes. And we have to just give ourselves those moments when we don’t self-doubt. I, I always say to people on my courses, it’s like having, it’s like listening for a moment.

It would be like someone asked you a question or you ask someone a question, and when you ask someone a question, you are not thinking about what they’re gonna say or what the answer is. You’re just waiting for the answer. So you ask, just ask me a question. You are in listening mode if you like. You’re just waiting to see what the answer is, cuz you don’t know what the answer is.

And so we have to just kind of adopt that when we’re trying to practice communication just for that moment. Because communication, you’ll know this comes in lightning quick. Right. It’s not like I say to an animal, what’s your favorite food? And they go,[00:54:00]

What happens is I say, what’s your say? And I get chicken and I haven’t even finished the question because they’re reading me and they know what the question is, so they answer it before I’ve even finished up. Yeah, very often. Yeah. And so we have to be open from the time we start asking the question and immediately after, because I always say to people, if you’re sitting there and you’ve said, what’s your favorite meal?

And you’re not getting an answer, what happens now is you are sitting there going, oh God, they don’t wanna talk to me. I’m no good at this. Oh, I don’t even know why I thought I’d get an answer. And actually, you’ve missed it. Right? You weren’t open and listening and you’ve missed it. So take a deep Yeah.

And ask the question again. And you can always say to them as well, look, I’m not very good at this yet. Right. So could you wait until I finish asking the question and then answer Please. Yeah. And they’ll do that for you as well. I just saw something pop up in chat. Oh, Kathy, are you [00:55:00] able to communicate with bugs and insects as well?

Now this is interesting cause before I ever knew about animal communication, um, somebody told me that if I had ants in my house and somebody told me to ask them to leave, and I did, and they went . Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . And like if a wasp was in the kitchen, I open the back door and I just stand by the door and I say, just come towards me.

Come towards me this way, this way. And nine times outta 10 they go, some aren’t listening for some reason. Um, oh. They, they, they are aware. They do listen. They can respond to communication just the same. They can answer questions exactly the same. They are souls just like us. . I know, I know. But if you wanna come back as a bug, you can.

Hey, all souls are the same souls. Um, I was, I live near the water and I was getting a lot of spiders [00:56:00] in, in my room. And so I set the intention, you know, I cleared, I created energetic boundaries in my room and I, because I have a fear of spiders, but I also love them and appreciate what they do for our ecosystem.

And I said, look, if you come into my room, you’re ready to cross over. That’s our, that’s our deal. And poof, spiders no longer in my room. And now on the rarity that I get one, I tap in and I let them know, Hey, this is the deal. This is the program. You can leave, but if you stay, this is what’s gonna happen.

And then nine times outta 10 they stay. And I’m like, okay, here we go. . Yeah. You know, I, I’ve had a deal with the mosquitoes for two and a half years now. Oh, I get a really bad reactions, mosquito bites. I, I get some cellulitis, which is quite nasty. Um, I get big blisters. I get in a hell of a mess with them.

So I had a, I sat down, I had a word with the mosquito [00:57:00] spirit and said, cuz you know the, in with the nature spirits, you can always communicate with nature spirits. And so I communicated with the spirit of the mosquitoes and said, the parent really need you guys to stop biting me. You are very welcome in my home.

I don’t mind if you are here, but you cannot bite me. And, and this, it’s this simple, right? I don’t want to kill you, but I’m forced to kill you because of the bad reaction I have to you. And it’s held for two and a half years. I often see them in the house, but they don’t like me. . Oh, this makes me so happy and joyful that people are gonna listen to this and realize they can do this too, to support themselves and support the, the nature that we’re around.

Absolutely. And as I say, the fact that we can communicate with them, even if we’re not picking anything up back Yeah. Is something that most people don’t, don’t practice. And if more people practice that, That improves relationships with your animals. It helps them trust more [00:58:00] and understand what’s going on.

I mean, for example, if you’re gonna move house, I mean, that’s a traumatic experience for everybody, but particularly for our animals, because everything they know is gradually disappearing into boxes. They don’t know what’s going on. But if you can involve them in the process by showing them where you’re gonna be going and how fun it’s gonna be, you know, we’re gonna put all these things in these boxes and it’s gonna get emptier.

But that’s fun because when we get there, it’s all gonna come out again. Yeah. and really let them know this is actually gonna be a great thing. Then, you know, the, we can change their perception and change how they feel about it and make it so much easier for them. Oh, . Leticia. Yes. Uh, tellers have a word with the mosquito spirit and get a deal with them.

Yes. She doesn’t wanna kill them. Right. So just, just don’t bite me. Someone put in the chat. So helpful to know. I have a friend who gets attacked by mosquitoes. . . [00:59:00] So the mosquitoes are just looking for food, you know, they just need to find a different buffet. So. That’s right. . It was, it happened to me a couple years back.

I was living in my dream space. I was so happy. Um, so happy. And I had rescued a cat. Mm-hmm. . And so she came to me in this home. So she only knew, you know, imagine going from being unsafe to safe in a loving home. And it was just her and I at the time. And I was getting this inkling for a couple of months and I was gonna move.

And it kind of made me a little unnerved cuz I was like, why would I move from a place that I love so much? And through a series of coincidences that were not coincidences, I was given this opportunity to move into an even better place within the same building. and it happened like that. And I went from, initially I said, oh no, thank you.

And then I thought about it and I was like, oh my gosh, what an incredible opportunity that’s just presented itself. And so in, in [01:00:00] less than, literally in less than 20 hours from the moment they made the offer, and I had said no. And then I thought about it and said, yes, I was ecstatic. And I went and I laid down on the bed to meditate about it and do some energy work.

And my pork hat comes up and lays right on top of me from, you know, mouth down my body. And she’s nervous and she’s drooling, which is what she does. And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, sweetie, you’re coming with me. You know, she of course had only had this experience with me in this container and didn’t know so exactly what you said.

I just told her, I said, I said, for the rest of your. Everywhere I, I move, you move with me. And then I explain to her what you just said. Things are gonna go in boxes. People are gonna come with furniture. I’m gonna put you in your carrier. That’s the other thing we used to, it used to be. I mean an act of God to get her into her carrier.

And now when I explain it to her and when I explain to her, she’s going to the vet and everything the vet’s gonna [01:01:00] do, although one time I forgot that they were gonna take her temperature up her bum, I forgot to mention that. And so the, the vet says to me afterwards, the vet goes, she did great. She did so great.

She didn’t like the temperature taking grant. I was like, I was like, sweetie, I’m so sorry. I forgot to tell you about that part. , this, this is great that you do all this. And I think as communicators we’re so much more up on the fact that we need to bring our animals into what’s going on. Um, years ago I used to run what I called an animal relationships workshop.

And it was, it wasn’t about picking up communication, it was about how we could use things like visualizations to help our animals. Mm-hmm. . And that was one of the things I used to always tell people, when you go to the vet, You know when they say, oh, I’m gonna take your cat in the back room. Yeah. Say to the vet, you don’t have to tell the vet what’s going on.

Cause they’ll probably think you’re nuts. So just say to the vet, what are you going to do? And if they say, well I’m gonna take blood, or Where you gonna take it from the leg? So you’re gonna shave it? Yes. Are you gonna do anything else while [01:02:00] he’s back there? Or we’ll take a temperature. And then what you do is you say, okay, fine.

And as your cat is taken out there, you let them know, you visualize for them what’s gonna happen and that nothing’s gonna really hurt and everything’s gonna be cut fine. And then they’ll be back and it’ll be a happy reunion. Right, right. Exactly. So yeah, it’s, people don’t understand and I think the more we can tell people, you can do these things to help your animals through difficult situations where they just don’t know what’s gonna happen.

Right. You can explain. . And so now they know what’s gonna happen. They understand and it makes things much easier for me. Oh, so much easier. So much easier. That’s funny. I’ve started slowly letting my vet know when like piece by piece and I’m sure she’s like, okay. I’m like, well, um, the other thing is when my cat is in the vet, I go to the coffee shop next door and I stay connected with her and let her know I’m close, you know?

Yeah. Little, little things we can do. Absolutely. Um, usually she’s trying to calm my nerves.[01:03:00]

So, yeah. So what, what has been will lead this into some of our final questions. What would you say has been the general wisdom that our pets have for us while we’re here on earth? Some of the things, I think the, the biggest thing is back to every, every decision we do out of love is the right decision.

That’s, that’s important. And it doesn’t just apply to them, it applies to life. Everything, every decision we make out of love is always the right decision. Um, they also, they, I’ve, I’ve had a lot of this, them wanting us to really understand that life and love go on regardless when they pass over, you know, and whoever we lose in life, we haven’t lost, we haven’t lost anything.

We may have lost the physical connection, but they’re always around us. They’re [01:04:00] always there for us. And something they tell me is, every time you say my name, I hear you. I always know. And so, um, they don’t want us to live a life grieving one dog called Max. Um, he puts it beautifully, I can’t remember his exact words, but it was something to the effect of, um, we came to you to bring you fun and joy and love.

We didn’t intend to leave you in grief and sadness. And if we did, then we didn’t do our job. So the way they see it is that where when they go, they understand we have to grieve. But once we get through that grieving process, which should be limited, you know, it doesn’t mean we’ll ever stop missing them in a way, of course.

But we should then remember the love, the fun, the laughter, the joy they brought, because that was why they came. They didn’t come to leave us in grief. They came to bring us joy and love and laughter. [01:05:00] What a beautiful note to end this on. Oh, this makes me wanna communicate even more with my cats than I have been.

So, oh, Kathy, it’s such beautiful work. Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Oh my gosh. It’s been a pleasure and I’d love to have you back as well when your book is out and we can talk about that. Thank you. A little bit more. Yeah, I would love that. Thank you.

Hopefully by the end of next year, . Yeah. Yeah. I know what it takes to write a book. It’s no small feat, . No, I’m loving it though. I never thought I’d enjoy writing. I suddenly discover I’m loving writing . Oh, that’s amazing. That’s amazing. So where can people find you? How do they work with you to have a session?

Um, I’ve got a website. I speak with animals.com. And it’s with not two people often put, I [01:06:00] speak two animals and that’s not it. It won’t find me. Okay. I speak with animals, Uhhuh. Um, I have a Facebook page also. I speak with animals and um, I’ve got a quite unusual surname, so I’m easily found on Instagram , but I’ve only just started Instagram, so, uh, hoping to do a bit more of that as well.

Okay. What is your Instagram handle? Uh, I think it’s just Kathy Slosky. Okay. And I will put that in the show notes for everyone too. We have a lot of information for our show notes today, so. Alright. Thank you so much for your time today. You’re welcome. Appreciate it. Oh, and by the one way, one small thing, I’ve got a new website which will be going up within the next two weeks, so if you want to go look at the website, wait a couple of weeks, you’ll see the new one,

Perfect. Perfect. We love all the stages of the creative process. So can people book session with you on your current website? Yeah. Uh, well, what happens is they email me or they fill in the [01:07:00] contact form. Um, but, uh, I, I offer three different readings. I offer a six or a 10 question reading, which are, you send me the questions I speak with your pet and then I send you a transcript.

Or the more popular one is a 30 minute live reading over Zoom where people can really, um, have a proper conversation with their animal, so, and get a recording of it. So that’s the more popular thing, . Okay. Okay. Yeah, it’s such an amazing thing for you to be able to support people with. So, and I love that we’re opening up to more and more of this.

Can I mention as well, there are a couple of free things I do that I like people to know about in case they need this? Absolutely. Um, and it’s, and it’s because I know how it feels to be in these positions. The first one is that if someone has an animal very close to end of life, And they’re struggling with that decision, I am more than happy, and I don’t charge to connect with their animal and ask them if they’re ready, if it’s their time.

Um, [01:08:00] and the other thing I do is when an animal passes over and it goes into healing, I’m happy to connect with them every few days and let you know how they’re doing and let you know when they’re fully healed. Aw, that is so sweet. Thank you for that. That’s a huge gift to be able to give people. Well, as you know, in the work we do, we’ve gotta be giving back and we’ve gotta be understanding, you know, what people really need.

And that’s something a lot of people need. Yeah, of course. We’re, it’s such an emotional thing to have that, um, anchor of support is a big deal in a time like that, so, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Thank you so much again. Thank you everyone. Welcome from the Interlight community who joined today. Those of you who are gonna join virtually on the podcast.

If you have any questions about this, you can connect with [email protected]. [01:09:00] If you have more questions for Kathy, you can email her. You can email me, her and I chat on the back end, and thank you for your kind notes in the chat. So, so wonderful to have you. This has been such an amazing conversation.

Thank you. And thank you everyone for coming along. It’s always lovely to connect with like-minded people. Yeah, that’s what we love about this community and space. . All right. Until next time everyone, thank you so much. Thank you. All right, take care. This podcast and website represents the opinions of Emily Marie and her guests to the show and website.

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